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SECRET 6 b1 (5) KAKL'S GUNDANG: (Cont.) Indians and the colored people UNT to vote, I decided to participate within that framework to obtain democracy for all South Africans. KAPLAN: RAFIk how do you think, have you done unt people so far, with the enormous changes that already have taken place in South Africa. Since we are actually no more discussing apartheid because we know that it is going. just as... GUNDANG: Right. KAPLAN: ..the Berlin was going. And if anything that is built up can be torn down, but what happens after the end of apartheid? GUNDANG: Right. What remains of apartheid now is uh basically the group UNT and uh UNT KAPLAN: Let's talk about the unr area. That means con..concentration of people in ghettos in the areas which are only for them and not for others which is not UNT GUNDANG: Right. unr to, I would say residential segregation uh by law but uh even on, on, on the group here UnT authorities have uh turned a blind eye. No longer prosecutions on the group UNT and uh President DE KLERK has even committed himself that early next year uh he would look at the group UNT and find an alternative or, to the group UNT if, if not totally abolish the group UNT. And the land actually would go together with the group unT and, and then you don't have any formal apartheid. SECRE