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SECRE (S) 4 b1 KAKrS KAPLAN: For which uNT zulu's are third minority. The ANc does UNT minority, it was this political attitude and, and the only thing they unr consider minorities are the black mi..minorities UNT they don't want to have any other affiliation. How can you combine that as being a political concern in Los Angeles UNT the country as such as it is, in other words you must have had some Unr foresight to realize that there will be change. That your work here can be very UNT GUNDANG: Well when uNt when the foreign service opened it's ranks to all South Africans irrespective of race, color and creed uh I had, we all as human beings are, are faced with decisions and we all have to make choices. And I had one of three choices to make at the time. As, as a young, young man uh I was uh politically aware, politically active, having been a victim of apartheid myself and uh I could do one of three things and was I gonna sit back and be a bystander to history in the making because when I uNT out of the university the changes started taking place even at that time. And I wasn't gonna sit back and be a bystander to history in the making. The other alternative I had or the option I had was to join the African National Congress. Well, I accept the uh principles calling for a non racial democratic South African. But I've always rejected their methods and I've had problems with their economic policies. Their methods are violence and I've had problems with the economic policies of SECRE