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SECRET b1 1 RALPH KAPLAN: On the air on Sunday. Therefore today is Sunday, July Ist. But actually I had an opportunity of taping this program about a week ago, on the 22nd of June. So this is here my guest, whom I shall soon identify, talk about MANDELA and other relevant things then remember it was done about a week earlier. And today my guest will be a very RAFIQUE GAneAr* interesting man, Mr. RAFIK CANGAT GUNDANe who is vice consul with (ronsneryh) the South African Consulate General in Los Angeles and.. (tape goes blank) of the UNt and it'il be an interesting program considering all these things. But first of all here's an important message. (Pause) KAPLAN: Good morning Mr. GUNDANG. Thank you so much that you come today to meet. GUNDANG: Good morning uh Dr. KAPLAN. It's my pleasure to be here. KAPLAN: It's both our pleasure except if you had waited a week we could discuss Mr. MANDELA's good or bad deeds on the west coast. But UnT have to quess a little bit because after all Mr. MANDELA was on the air which would be yesterday with TED KOppEL and spoke quite strongly about what he believed in. what was your reaction to it? GUNDANG: My reaction uh to NELSON MANDEIA was uh, it's an important visit. Uh, he, he needs to be heard b1 here in America. He needs to get some kind of response fron CLASSIFIED BY NSICS T54L93K42 the American people on how th REASON: 1.4 (c) 4 un du? Mot andoad uenraeny DECLASSITY ON: 04-25-2039 DATE: 04-25-2014 ALL INFORATION CCWTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED EXCEFT WHERE SHOWN OTHERWISE SESRET