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5 NY 100-161445 CAVETT: Do they get any credit or do they think they were responsible for the end of the Vietnam War? ABBIE HOFFMAN: Thinks they went to Chicago in 1968 to oppose the war in Vietnam and other reasons such as ragism in the country, oppose policies of the people who were then in power. Replied that the people who opposed the war were responsible for ending the war. Stated the election of RICHARD NIXON was in the final analysis a good thing because “now we aré Seeing tne US GOvernment in aii its nakednéss, corruption and brutality. Stated they were not aware of what was going to happen in Chicago. They went there to protest the policies of the US Government. Stated they were not a conspiracy then or now, that they were lucky to physically survive Chicago and lucky to survive all the Government threats to them. JERRY RUBIN: We were in physical danger at all times put due to thrust of their actions he did not regret it. Thinks the 1960's were one of the greatest periods in American History - proud to be part of a generation that didwhat thay did as everything they did has been proven correct.- we did things in the 1960's which added to the d@mase of the governmente ...°. I acted on my beliefs and am not interested in any credit - I acted because I was outreged about what my Government was doing in Vietnam and the quality of life in America. CAVETT: How much did you plan what people might call your bizarre actions? Was there a game plan or philosophy of when or when netto to break the law? ABBIE HOFFMAN: No, but there was a kind of spirét... you might want to put forth which would encourage sporntaneoug outrage on the part of the people - we were not a carefully orgar:ized conspiracy, we were not the kind of movement that existed in the 30's of tightly organized groups; we were not based on carefully thought out plans or sterile ideological committment; our struggle was a struggle that grew out of moral outrage, it grew out of personal experiences which were witnessed and absorbed the ideas we had were not ideas that grew out of books, they were ideas that grew OE er action and struggle. Some of the outrageous acts/Yone because we were fighting in a electronic jungle which allowed one minute to get across the message. - 3- ONT MR me ter NI Ars SAT TESA Le Dae pet Bt Mee i i te ere tree)