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Hist lian Mauser-designed for the 1889 Bel- attern rifle, the 7.65mm was alsu adapted by Argentina, Bolivia. Columbia. Ecuador, Peru and Tur- cal Notes key. In the United States. Remington and Winchester loaded sporting ammunition and furnished rifles in this caliber until about 1936. It has heen obsolete in the ALS. since that time, but sporting ammunition has al- ways been loaded in Europe. The Remington Model 30 and Winchester Model 54 holt action rifles were chambered for the 7.65mm and jt enjoved a Jimited pepularity for a few years. With the influx of 1891 Argentine Mauser military rifles, it is having another go-round on the American market. General Comments The 7.65mm Mauser is a well- Bullet (grs.} Powder/grs. 150 4695 . a? 150 HY.2 ao 174 4895 45 75 4350 49 175 4831 33 185 BY {Military} Fk Z)F (HAilitary} FL 250 (Norma SP) FL SOR Lebel ™ NX, Historical Notes ‘TRe 8mm Lebel was the firat gmalt bore smokeless powder military cartridge developed hy any world power. The carf?idge and the Lebel holt ac- {ion rifle were both adopted ie W&R6. Its rimmed case was not well-adapted to automatic YALTIS S80 it wag re- plared by the rimless 7.5mm round in 1936. Remington manufactured Lebel rifles and ammunifion for the French government during WW I. When the wayende afl thdjsurplus was sold commercially and Reminkte turnerMout sporting ammo with a 170-gr. hronz bullet INo sporting rifles have been made in Generg# Coraments Prohahly mure & Lebel rifles Reloading Dat — Bullet (gra! Powdar/gra. 170 hiv.2 47 198 3033 46 178 HV-2 43 LAPS BT (Mititory) - Fe 170 (Remington) FL Pry panies = tas eP TA ae me teed’ te, Mt pe Rtgs Reloading Date and Factory Batistics MY ME 2810 2638 2550 2172 25590 2600 - 2560 2550 2456 2346 2467 2510 200 yd. MRT = 3.2” 2132 21350 . S11” 2920 2841 ” “ 2.5" and Foctory Ballistics designed cartridge and gives excellent perf. ance Fer North American hunting. In power it is S#mewhere tween the .20-40 Krag und the .30-06, which makes it adequate for anything except possibly the biz brown bears in close cover. Primers are Berdan 6.5mm or .217", & size availahle - in several European makes. Occasionally one encounters discontinued American made cases or ammunition, and these use tirge rifle (.210") primers. Cases can be made from empty .30-06 brass by using case forming dies available from several American manufacturers. Bullet Size is .313°, but 311” or .312” diameter bullets will give - satisfactory accuracy. This cartridge case is also similar to the 7.7mm Arisaka and these can be used to form _ 7.65mm brass. Norma-made cases and loaded ammuni- tion are now imported with Boxer primers. wn up. The 8mm Lebel cartridge is in about 730-40 Krag class and makes a fine caliber for cleer srough elk hunting. Remington stitl sts 8mm Lebel spurting ammunition and it can be purchased jn most of the larger cities. Plenty of good 323” pulfes are available and American cases can easily be ploaed, (jlitary cases have Berdan primers of .199” pr .216 si7e™and are not very practical to reload. : my 2370 2380 2459 2380 2640