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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 5/16/80 Date of transcription North American Coal Corporation (Nacc), 12s0o Shaker Boulevard. .He was interviewed at his place- of business for information regarding a discussion he is said.to have had with U.s. Representative John P. Murtha involving Arab money.. furnished the following information: He has known Murtha since 1974 and he stated that b6 the 1,400 employees and'himself worked with and for Murtha's b7C political campaign because Murtha belonged to the Coal Caucus. Apart from .being politically acquainted with Murtha, has not had any contact with him. Since. is a member of the 'Government Coal Committee, he went to Washington, D.c.on January 17, l980 to discuss the energy issue. While he was. there, he went to the office of Murtha at about noon. was alone with Murtha during the meeting.. During the last five minutes of their conversation, Murtha said, "There's some (Arab or Middle East) Oil People. who want to get into this country;~they've got all kinds- of. money. What can we build (invest) in my district?" The amount of money mentioned by Murtha that was available by the "oil People" was $40-$50 million. stated that he did not make any inguiries on Murtha's behalf but told Murtha that he would think about it. After he returned home from Washington, D.C., he recalled knowing of a small coal company that was for sale. The name of the company was The Oceanic Lighting Co. and it was. located in Blairsville, Pennsylvania and employed twelve to telephoned Murtha on January 18, b6 fifteen people. 198o and mentioned the company that was for sale. However, he b7C does not think he mentioned the name of the company to Murtha.. Murtha's reply was: "Hell, that's too small; we've got to have something bigger than that." That.conversation lasted about a minute and a half. At no time afterwards did Murtha mention the matter, although he saw Murtha,twice since then; nor did. he telephone or communicate again with Murtha concerning the 5/16/80 Cleveland Ohio Investigation on BQMRA 87-81067 /bms SA 5/16/80 Date dictatec This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBl. It is the property of tho FBl and is'loanedto your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency..