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NY 100-161445 CAVETT: What do radicals live on when they are radicalizins and where do you get your income? RENNIE DAVIS: Most of us get our money from people who support our work, but there is little of it and no life style attached to it. Generally get money out of speaking or contributions from people who support the kind of vision we strive to work for. JERRY RUBIN: Commented he sen money from stealing. The rich get their money from owing the natural resources of our world - the real question should be where the rich get their money. ABBIE HOFFMAN: During and after the trial we got alot of money giving speeches, writing bookssalmost all the money was absorbed into the trial but the IRS did investigate, at least against me,and assessed me for money tnat was donated for the trial. The IRS was definitely used by the Nixon Administration to fight protest movement. CAVETT: What if a kid gets hold of some of your old rheotoric and says I'm going to throw a bomb into a munitious plant, what would you tell him? ABBIE HOFFMAN: Used "never met a man who was corrupted by a book or anything". The use of bombs at that particular ywenent will be the correct method - I think tactics of struggle are decided by the people who engage in struggle and if they're good the tactics will fit - hard to judge tactics ~ the act would have to be tied to some goal, why was the person doing it and everything. TOM HAYDEN: I can understand the spirit of the person but I don't think it would be the most effective thing to do right now because what you really have to do is blow up what is in peoples heads that keeps them from seeing what is going on.