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a Ee ee ee back in 1967 talking about Internal Security's ‘operations, the New Left movement, Young Socialist Alliance, Chicago trial, nationwide demonstrations, student agitation, antiwar activities, the Committee of Returned Volunteers, Communist Party, U.S.A., Progressive Party, Socialist Party, extreme organizations, Black Panther Party. . All of these items and statements about extremists, white extremists and hate-type groups, the Republic of New Africa, Minuteman, our coverage of subversive organizations—there are several groups, orga- nizations, and movements which I discussed showed the wide coverage we muect maintain tn fallaw an their astiwitiog and shaneing tartica. WU BARRA BEACH EECA VF AURA TT We VEE MWS Fee CT am ware wary and in spite of the proliferation of these organizations, our informant coverage at all levels has been of great value and assistance, enabling us to keep abreast of our investigative responsibilities. This is the same way through all of our public appropriation testimony. We have told the world we are investigating black hate groups, New Left groups. So, I merely mention this to try to put in the frame of ref- erence of these men, feeling, they know we are investigating them. They didn’t tell them, though, in sufficient detail other than scantily before the Appropriations Committee, what we were doing to disrupt these activities, and-my feeling is that the men recognized the danger, they pointed out the danger to the world. They said, we are investi- - gating these organizations, and they felt then that the comfortable climate of leave it up to the FBI, we should do something more. And that is what we are looking for guidelines on, the Attorney General, Mr. Kelley, you, to give us the guidelines under which we should operate. Now, there are certain guidelines that we don't need to be given, we shouldn't do this. We don’t have such activities today, programs designed to disrupt and neutralize in the domestic intelligence field. But beyond that, we need guidelines on what does the whole of Con- gress, representative of the people, by passing of legisiation say this is the F 1's roie in domestic intelligence. Senator Towrr. Mr. Chairman, my time has long since expired. But I would like to note that I saw Mr. Kelley on the “Today Show” this morning indicating strong suppert for a response to congres- sions} oversight, and that is a healthy attitude. The Cramman. Well, I think it must come because, as you have conceded, you shouldn't have ever had to have had the guidelines that the Federal Government’s chief law enforcement agency ought not to disobey the law, and really, you don’t need explicit guidelines to tell you that, or yon shouldn't. Wouldn't you agreef _ Mr. Apasws. I would say that looking at it today, we should have looked at it that way yesterday, but I do feel, I don’t have any doubt about the good faith of people recognizing the danger, feeling they had a responsibility, no matter whose fault it was. our’s internally or eqause. we weren't given the supervision we should have been given, nd taking what they considered to be appropriate action. The Crarawan. Senator Hart. Senator Harr of Michigan. I should apologize both to witnesses and my colleagues on the committee for scrambling around loosely, but in explanation to the witnesses, I have not been able to give atten- tion to the evolution of the files that are now at hand until the last couple of days, and Y am not sure what is in the files for the public