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163I-HO-1462938 zones and if his orders were not carried out completely, he would hold the section commander responsible. [AL-MAJID interview, March 21, 2004]. AL-MAJID also admitted that the second segment of the tape, from approximately 9:55 to 16:06, was his voice and his words. AlL-MAJID stated he believed this meeting took place in April, 1987, rather than in 1988. AL-MAJID stated that those present included the Governors and Ba'ath Party Secretary Generals of each province of the Autonomous Region of Iragi Kurdistan. These provinces included Irbil, Dohuk, Suleimaniyeh, Kirkuk, and Mosul. AL-MAJID stated that in the audiotape he is speaking about the "gathering of villages" in the northern Kurdish region of Iraq. In the audiotape, he explains the difficulty with moving safely between cities in the north and the numbers of "martyrs" who suffered at the hands of saboteurs. AL-MAJID encouraged those present to "speed up the process" of gathering or collectivizing the villages in the north. An audiotape segment from approximately 3:28 to 4:25 was played for AL-MAJID and contained the following: If you remember, when I was placed in charge of the Northern Bureau, I was also tasked with additional responsibilities [including] administration, the relevant Special Services, the Security and Intelligence ones, and the Army, and the civilian wing of the Party, and the military wing of the Party. These were my responsibilities, that's all. So, I was to work as I wished. Therefore, we started making our own decisions and in some instances, even in violation of the Leadership's instructions. But Comrades, this was three months ago. AL-MAJID acknowledged the recording was his voice and his words and identified the content as a meeting held by AL- MAJID with KHAZRAJI, KAMIL SAJID (hereinafter SAJID), the Army First Corps Commander, HASHEM, the Commander of the Anfal Operation, TALI'A AL-DURI, outgoing Army Fifth Corps Commander, YUNIS ZAREB, incoming Army Fifth Corps Commander, and the Secretary Generals of the Ba'ath Party Sections. AL-MAJID believes this meeting took place in late 1988 or early 1989, 43