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0-19 (Rev. 12-14-64) Tolson Belmont Mohr DeLoach Casper Callahan Cenrad Felt Gale Rosen Sullivan ——— weterd” it would have to take would have been to Tavel militant, uncompromising and activist, and the Trotter hierarchy had gotten conservative. Itwas motivated Tele Room mainly by protecting its own self interests. | might Holmes : also point out that although the Black Muslim Gandy : movement professed to be a religious group, the S religion they had adopted—Islam—didn't recognize - them. So, religiously it was in a vacuum. And it ie didn't take part in politics, so it was not a political 7 group. When you have an organization that’s neither political nor religious and doesn't take part + in the civil rights struggle, what can it call itself? It's in a vacuum. So, all of these factors led to my INTERVIEW WITH _ ; splitting from the organization. MALCOLM X What are the aims of your new organization? There are two organizations—there's the Muslim (Cont. ) “4 Mosque, Inc., which is religious. It's aimisto create > an atmosphere and facilities in which people who are interested in Islam can get a better understand- ing of Islam. The aim of the other organization, a the Organization of Afro-American Unity, is to use fs whatever means necessary to bring about a society in which the 22 million Afro-Americans are recog- nized and respected as human beings. How do you define black nationalism, with which you have been identified? . I used to define black nationalism as the idea The Washington Pcst and that the black man should control the economy of - satimes Herald his community, the politics of his community, and The Washington Daily News 50 forth. The Evening Star But, when I was in Africa in May, in Ghana, I New York Herald Tribune was speaking with the Algerian ambassador who is New Yotk Journal-American extremely militant and is a revolutionary in the New York Daily News true sense of the word (and has his credentials as New York Post such for haying carried on a successful revoketterr The New York Times . 7 The Baltimore Sun The Worker The New Leader The Wall Street Journal The National Obsetver —W_. People's World Date “March-April '65 YOUNG SOCIALIST Page 2