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on po RE: JOHN L, LEWIS, ET AL fe . pee INTERVISN WITH The following investigation was conducted oo z Special ‘gent s SI onc rare a: Springfield, Illinois on September 17, —~ 1943. nt his residence ‘Springfield, Tilinois, heents interviewed Wo advised that he never has been arrested in his life. He did not appear to Agents to be ver; cooperative at Re also advised he t all and indicated he did not know what it was all about. not been contacted by anyone in regard to instant case. Agents obtained from him the following unsigned statenent: Spring., Ti. ; Sept. 17, 1943 give the following information to ec axaropeTm and who are known to me to be Special A-cnts of + ~Bal. promises have beon mad. me to give this.information, "TI, & No G "T'was born in IT an at Mine A. J have been working there abou yrs. in 1932 I did not care which union ye went with I went to PM i as the rest did, I never favored cithor union. Fron 1932 to 1941 I suw no difference in the wa the P.M... handled things. "I heard that Elshoff had taken over Mine "A" in 1941, it made no diffcrence to me I paid no attcntion to it. I heard this through gossip. No one contacted me to go to U.E.W. or to ask my opinion about_ the situ- I didn't hear anythin: about Elshoff possibly bringing the coal from ation. Wine A through Minc "B" during this time I was working SRR ‘ paid no attention to the rumors going around. I did not go to any mectings at I joined the U.M. i. right at the P.M...., Redmants Hall or the Elks Club. mine ths morning it opened up. Nobody said anything to me, I just went out to zo to vork when I got there thoy told us the union had swung over to U.E.7, and we would haze to join if we wantcd to work. Tt still docsntt make any difference to me which union we have. Since 1941 conditions at Minc * arc better than they were from 1932 to 1941. “nT have read this two mee statement and to the best of my knowlod 7e and belief it is the truth and it is as I have told it to the A ents. This statencnt is true and there is no renson why I should not sign it bu I would rather not sign." * - §69 =