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Re: JOHN L. LEWIS, ET AL INTERVIEW WITH Mr. FRED SCHAEFFER, who is secretary of the Coal Producer# -_ I FRED SCHAEFFER Assoe@iation of Illinois located at Ps Llinois, was . wie interviewed by Special Agent Gaiam Springfield Office relative to the membership of CB in the Mine “B" Coal Company during the years that this company was dealing with the Frogressive Miners of America as a labar organization. It should be : -noted that the Coal Producers Association is composed of officials of operating mines who are organized by the Progressives. f Mr. SCHAEFFER produced his file on CARL ELSHOFF, which reflected that ELSEOFF became a member of the Coal Producers Association in the Fall of 1932 and was considered a member until August, 1935. During this entire period, numerous letters were written to ELSHOFF requesting him to pay his dues to the association. It was noted that he was delinquent on several _ occasions and at the time when he was dropped.from the association he had not paid dues for February, March, April, May, June and July of 1935, Mr, SCHAEFFER advised that, according to the rules of this organization, any member could be dropved from the association if he was delincauent in his ducs for two months or more, Upon the evidence obtained in the file, . tr. SCHAEFFER stated that ELSHOFF was dropped because of his delinquency ‘in dues payments. He had no information relative to ELSHOFF and his ceasing to be a momber of the association which would be pertinent to this CHSE. Mr. SCHAEFFER stated that for a number of years he was on the Foard of the Illincis Coal Operators Association, which deals with the United Mine Workers of America, He advised that any operator could become a member of this association through formal application after it had been approved by the board of the Operators Association. A prerequisite for membership was not that the individusl operator's mine should be absolutely free of any labor trouble at the time of tho application, Admission to ~ membership rested solely with the Board, who simply decided whether or not. the operator was reliable and would meet his obligations as a member of the association. Mr. SCHAEFFER had no information as to whether or not ELSHOFF anplied for membership in the Coal Operators Association or, if so, why he was refused. , , - 2 eee” ae = hull . . ore to teas ear. steed) BRET I Bee an