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INTERVIER WITH tactics. BA&AJQRK stated that he had gone to Spring- LEONARD C. PAJQREK field, Illinois, probably sometime in and around (continued) September, 1937, but he could not be positive as to the date or as to whether it was before, after, or during the month of September. He stated that undoubtedly the records of Region 15, NLRB, would reflect this trip. Concerning the charges filed by PMW against Mine B on September 7, 1937, EAJORK stated that it was his recollection that these charges alone were not enough upon which to base a hearing on the question of an unfair labor practice as such. He did state, however, that when the question arose and a hearing was had on the matter of representation which was heard on October 25, 1937, that then the board threw the doors open for charges of unfair labor practices Auithe supervisors of the mine interfering with the activities of PMii, and the supervisor's refual to dis- charge the twelve labor spies. The writer questioned Mr. BAJQRK as to whether or not CARL ELSHOFF, his supervisors, or Mine "B" might be guilty of an unfair labor practice in the event they had discharged the labor spies on May 12, 1937, os requested by PW, or as to whether ELSHOFF might be guilty of an unfair labor practice if he did not discharge these men when requested. Mr. BAJGK answered this question but stated that the answer would depend upon {| the complexion, membership, and policies of the NLRB in Washington, D. C. t at the time; that membership on this board has changed from time to time i! and the policies on a question similar to instant one had changed depend= i ing upon membership and policies of the Board. Mr, BAJCAK said that employers usually in situations where there was a dispute between Unions did not sign up with either Union and sub- mitted this matter to the NLRB for a consent election, a procedure for which the NLRB was particularly fit to handle, and as a matter of fact, one of the reasons for a NLRB. He pointed out, however, that this was not done in instant case. Mr. PAJORK referred to photostatic copy of a memo to BENEDICT TOLF dated October 8, 1937, wherein the file numbers XIII-R~125 and XITI- 473 are carried on the memo. IJ. RK stated that these file numbers reveal that there were at least two matters before the NLRB. The *c* file number stands for a “Cherge" case. The "R" file refers to a "representation" case. He statod that it was his recollection that there were two "Charge" cases and one “Representation" case involved in the Mine Mr. BAJORK stated that, of course, while he was very close with the Mine “B" situation that OSC.RASMITH, who is now Executive Secretary in washington, D.C., was at the t ield Examiner and was the man closest -L66- ae ee re er f f- nd