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id ell lie Ln DE, “ and started him sliding aft with the passengerse Just shortly after the landing signal was given Balla wes standing between the forward window and an ajoining one and observed the landing lines dropped. Aftercbserving the landing lines dropped Balla then made room for the passengers at the windowe He was not able to estimate the time between the dropping of the landing lines and the explosion. After Balla had slipped aft with two passengers he heard another explosion and then started pulling himself along the handrail to one of the windows. He observed some of the passengers jumping out of the window of the cabin and pulled himself to position in front of the forward window and jumped out. At this time the ship was rather high from the ground as it was rising by the nose. During the approach to the mooring mast Balla advised that the ship was proceeding in a normal fashion. As to his experience with airships, Balle advised the Board that he had been aboard the Airship Hindenburg since ite first trial trip, but that he had no experience prior to his shipping on the Hindenburg « Balla was excused by the Board when he advised that he had no further information with reference to the wreck of the Hindenburg. The third witness on May 1, 1937 wes EMIL STOECKLE, who resides at Frankford, Germany. Etrachkla adviesadA thet he was aboard the Hindenburg on May WV ve eM Pe a S adetale Sw WES Lik fi Re Wak TE 6, 1937 as a passenger, and is employed by the German Zeppelin Transport Company in its town office at Frankford, Germany. He is in charge of the freight and mail department. While on board the Hindenburg Stoe- ckie did not have any duties to perform during the trip, but after lend- ing he was to be in charge of the freight and mailing department at lakehurst for this trip. Stoeckle advised that the Janding signal was not within his knowledge, hut he sessumed that it had jhean riven ef they anprosarthed dik bh? moratoria ov“ 8 es eh aa te es ee wh ST eatinnt ee ee gm rae =a wh bw herent aol ~dleeslierieniateteedion] the mooring mast. Stoeckle did not make any special observations of the approach of the ship to the mooring maste It was his impression that the ship was at rest when he first saw the landing lines dropped,