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vote pg be : « bien, oa 5 ete os gg AMIR NE Ee ANE PPE EF NE naa ea Conti i at ae till H oe ME oe nar 1 a Oa gE AP Oe 0 a -_ —_ - Ke beet fae le + : . poe ee ee vale nt fret =e ale eo te I ort Pare "4589 Former Forcign Office ~7 NOVEMBER 1955 OGicials~ with Burgess during their university careers, and their Communist associations Wt Fa peck et AE OE gin T isappearahce 1590 said that since that date—1st Jaly, 1951~ Mr. Phifby has been subject to the closest’ 477 after their university days, Philby was investigation, and that there was no ev asked to resign from the Foreign Service dence to show that he was responsible --° on Ist July, E951. ee te for warning Burgess one Maclean, but |. . = orei - me - that, while he was in the Government sees “7° day that cioce thor sane gay Ment on to vice, he carried out his duties competently... subject of the closest investigation. I have and Coo a Opsty 1 : have given way ; no doubt that that isso. [ have dsalt wa once again CD BWENDS 10 BIE anges wilh the point previously, namely, that “* ‘ BAe ty te adore et if the Foreign Office is to keep on investi- gating people until it has sufficient evidence under the Official Sccrets Act whether he heard the name of Mr. Phil a to prosecute. it may well be that all kinds af any time before he happened to read it >=" of people will be able to get away with is an article in an American paper? y= all Kinds of things. ~~ eee ae: Mr. Raymond Gower (Barry): Could ~~ __ the hon. and gallant Gentleman say ee At ’ rae oo gb eet te mtn awe ae vot gan ytcbecst | Lhewt-Colone! Lipton: Yes, the name ---- . . The Minister of State” for Forcign has been. the subject of comment for -.<<< Affairs (Mc,. Anthony Nutting): As the months and months past in this-country, .~ +450. | hon. and gallant Gentleman has based g The name has been literally hawked — - great deal of his case on the statement about. As a matter of fact, if the hoo. >: that certain statements appeared in the Genileraan takes the trouble, he will see American Press before the House of Com- that one paper, the “ Daily Sketch," pub. 2-7: mons met on 25th October, can he con- lished a special interview with Mr, Philby: 2 > - firm or deny that the statements from the which appzared, J think. in the issue OF « aut. American Press of 231d Octob ertowhich 3rd October last. Jt must not be sug- he has referred were based on disclosures aoe that the American article to which “ which had already been madz by the hon. have referred, while it may be the Grst -- ~- and gallant Gentleman himself 19 news. mention in print ssibly associating Mr, - **.- papers in this country? } was myself in Philby with the third man, is necessaril ot the United States on 23rd Octobzr, and the first mention or discussion of his 2 Fead | various Press reports Which referred sanse in this country, "<0. esiey os tae oe ; to Mr. Philby, and these Press reports ~~ oT are a alae were based on allegations made by’ the mae Foreign Secretary went Sade thas eo hon. and gallant Gentleman himself io Me Philby hed reason [0 etre ne that a this country, 7 vr ore Mr. Fhiiby had at any time betrayed the -» = ve de res 4 yeh audtiae interest of this country, or identified him. 2 Licat.-Colonel Lipton: The very simple self with the so-called third man,. “if :22~ answer to that is this. While it is true indeed there was one.” Now we are ens : that the name of an hoa. Member is tering into the field of imagination, be-“ mentioned in this particular article, that cause 1 am mot quite sure what the hon. Member is not myself, and 1 do Foreign Secretary meant whea he talked not know—{Hon, MEMBERS: “ Wh at is about the so-called third man,“ if indead |, the date?”} It is 23rd October, 1955: there was one.” Everything depends on ** *** “that is the date of the article. According what the Foreign Secretary meant, of to some articles in unspecified American what he intended to convey, when he read vee Hewspapers on unspecified dates, the right out the very carefully prepared section cere oe eee hon. Gentleman has sugeested that Lmen- of the speech which he gave to the House poe Fe tioned the name of Mr. Philby. If that ig earlier today. Is he trying. or does he“... 60, I should be very pl eased to examine wish, to suggest that of the three SE these particular periodicals, . At the people ' to whom the field of suspicion ha: pore coe Se moment, I persona ly have no knowledge arrowed down by mid-April, 1951, Mr | . whatever of any articles appearing in the 7 mee =, gine hve 3 Boe! * Philby was not one? If so, will he please 7 ~ American Press to that effect, and, there- say so? A statement about that would ~~. fore, i an not able to answer the right help to clarify the position. ya geeerg g4 A entieman or make any withdrawal - I am very sorry that after considerin; ‘ae pased upon the statement which he has as carefully” as T possibly could the bole ; raps «= that I made of what the Foreign Secre! - -., What IT was in the course of saying was I 5 ty said, 3 cannot depart from the terms =" 7 i tha: the Foreign Secretary himself has the supplementary Question that 1 put ~: - uuu. » rf echer, tea ay, n° . a ew oe es oe TE a, Tinker Ee «OB eee - ako wer a eoowe bie, . aa re ee ee Eo OD TE ae a FES = = _ apt Oa iio e uy 1