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If we were to take it as conclusive that because a man was a Communist “or a Fascist in his university life, he must, therefore, be Permanently held under sus- y icion as likely to betray secrets of State, think that we should be degenerating into McCarthyism, because that was "a NOVEMBER i9ss” “onda Micnes "4st" ee Tree Nhe pee rv et Ana ehiietar ge ters cet va to - will think that anybody Is the high:' reaches of the Foreign Office who wei responsible in this matter would for os moment have sought fo protect any their colleagues from a charge c espionage. am quite sure that the would pot, and that would be an unju: suspicion, “7: frig Rome oe this matter. In the middle of April, 1951, 1 was verbally informed, in general terms. of leakages that had occurred. At that [oe es at : time, it was stil] not knows who were bo 4-- the informants, although suspicion sj narrowed down to a quite limited number = of people. To the best of my recollection tif the names were not mentioned to me. ap 4- The Security Service arranged to pede Hinvestigate, and it sought and obtained ooo ful! Foreign Office co-operation. 1 hope i “4° that no one here of outside the House _ nem } | a . .* z - . - fm ~ = 4 Seay ae we eo oe ee oe ea 3 a ye = = ee Bk _ . ce ee ee eagle ee cee vee eee ae ee oe me =e wee ee a ae we nee ach! : a tee «oe iit. were ate. 2D ot oe. - . ne oa ee eteS exactly what McCarthyism was—a prob- At a later date, as outlined in th pou. fie ing back and the assumption that if there White Paper, Maclean became the prin ae a had been such a relationship: the man ejpal suspect, and as a consequence som oa roo must be held to be guilty. :~ --- ~ top-secret papers were withheld from him eoclstom ges The dates of ali these incidents are That was @ decision which, no doubi beer et, mri revealed in the While Paper, and five occasioned some difficulty because é ee Caer Governments in all were involved—the might arouse suspicion, On the othe Fee TL ORT py fee pre-war Conservative Government, the ‘band, if the papers had continued to b mele fre Coalition Government, two Labour Gov- supplied to him, it would have laid th: gol. , ft . t ol To ernments and the present Government. authorities open to great criticism in du eee 20 oe Therefore. we are all in it. Five Gov- course if trouble arose. In all thes poe te pe ernments have been concerned with these matiers we have to remember this Boo eereee ge por two men, and J feel that we must all dilemma of the security authorities. Apan P07 do our best to help the House. but we from the small security branch of th: ete beer mes . must have due regard to security in the Foreign Office, the wider security author: f- ‘ process. I will iclt the House what I ties, of course, were responsible to th: Pes know about this matter during the short Prime Minister and not to the depan- jo wei period that J held office as Secretary of mental Ministers, which is quite right. wooo Ee State for Foreign Affairs. -; - -. -- | The evidence against these men at the om . peers: So far as I can recall, 1 never met , materia) limes right up to their departure i ans Mr, Burgess. I met Mr. Maclean only | Was insufficieat to warrant decisive action Soe Er once, and that was at a social gathering, | on charges of es ionage. If they had ees nena: which bears out the point that his office | been arrested and oltimately found io = ae a cr | as Head of the American Department was nocent, that would have brought discredit ecco ts not of the kind which would bring him both on the Foreign Office and the z. ey into frequent contact with the Secretary Security Service, and charges of goodness | re PITA, S, of State. 1 will tcii what 1 know. KOOWS Waal WOUIG Have Ofed mace. 1 De aa ; 7 - { = I say. five Governments were involved, evidence was insufficient. It. could not! ah So as well as a number of Ministers at the justify arrest, and further evidence was re A. Be odie fog Foreign Office. Unfortunately, two of the . needed in order to justify effective action, EL: ;. ode Vie. are Ministers who were at the Foreign Office There was another reason why precipi- = i ancien a ae during part of the time—Mr. Bevin and | tate action could not very well be taken. - { = at i aah Mr. McNeil—have died. Nothing I shall | That was that one of the most valuable a: ten say should be taken as criticism of them | things to do in counter-espionage is no! Sma og” Sanaa d —they are not here to answer for them- {| only to find out the mao or the men whe b.. ae oe - ; “Pd selves—but I may have to refer to! are responsible for espionage but to find a ne ee ee 4 matters which occurred during their! out their contacts and the channel: = RL st Es fe HIER Re ee ew ee, ee ee er re 1 obteh whe eae wnt HH LA if. ‘ porou OF: VK, \ tnrouga WI tncy Bul ai TFOm whol BOF Ee TE Y I will tell the story of my own part in | they receive their orders. Therefore, pre cipitate action might destroy the wide: ‘operation of unravelling the network o espionage against our country.--,, >. Mr, Daines: Could my sight ‘bon Friend, who was Home Secretary at thi (i explain why the ports were no alerted in case Maclean went; and secondly, could my right bon. Frien: explain why Maclean's passport was nc - withdrawn? May I draw my right bor _ Friend's attention to the fact that pass } ports have been withheld from Britis cae eee eS. ee ee ee ee ee ee as