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@ _SESRE @ FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) : 279A~-~WF-222936 Continuation of FD-302 of Bruce Edwards Ivins , On 1/ 29 / 02 , Page 7 Ivins is aware that who wanted B. anthracis strains. He is also aware that Iraq wanted to obtain the Ames strain of B. anthracis from Porton Down in Great Britain. Ivins provided SA with a complete inventory of the B. anthracis collection in the Bacteriology Department which he obtained There is no one at the facility who has been rumored to be attempting to gain access to B. anthracis or other Select Agents for which they do not have a legitimate need. Ivins is also unaware of anyone who has access to the materials or the ability to work with Select Agents who appears to be unstable or exhibit mental or emotional problems. Ivins speculated that if he were going to make anthrax to send through the mail, the first thing he would have to do would be to find someone who knew how to make the powder. He thought that this could either be [ __or someone from Dugway Proving Grounds. As far as Ivins nows | ) Ivins does not know if Battelle has the capability to make the powders. Ivins stated that it would take gomeone with a degree in the sciences or someone who had great technical expertise and the ability to work the requisite equipment in order to make dried materials. Ivins fears that this prior event is a test for a larger scale attack or an attack with another Select Agent such as smallpox. Ivins is not aware of an Internet website for bacteriology, however, there ig an Intranet website which is maintained by[________]which contains SOPs on working with materials. Ivins recalled an incident which occurred in the late 60s or early 70s regarding an individual named George Wright. Wright left Detrick in the late 60s or early 70s and apparently stuck some bottles of liquid B. anthracis cultures in a paint can and took them home. When USAMRIID began working with B. anthracis again in the early 1980s, Wright brought the can back to USAMRIID. Ivins noted that this would not contain the Ames strain because the Ames strain had not been discovered when Wright worked at USAMRIID. - Ivins stated that Wright died several years ago.