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7 £ FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) ; ‘ ; 279AR-WF-222936-USAMRIID Continuation of FD-302 of Bruce Edward Ivins ,0n 1/13/2005 , Page 4 IVINS is not certain that the FBI has a copy of his culture notebook. This notebook is maintained inside Suite B3, and USAMRIID policy does not allow the researchers to remove paper records from the containment suites. The culture record is only about one to three pages in length. IVINS agreed to enter the suite, hold the open noteobok up to the window, and let the FBI photograph each page. and IVINS were at a recent described to IVINS his experience with the FBI in relation to the ongoing investigation of the 2001 anthrax-laced letter mailings. po told IVINS that he was firmly interrogated at the United States Attorney's Office and that the whole experience was just awful. When IVINS was in[_____—_—siddhouse, he noticed[ ___]haa Thoug a_large safe in which he kept ammunition and weapons. really likes "all that stuff", he is really a nice guy. The book on eugenics which was referenced in a previous in Lew of IVINS was just one of the books IVINS noticed he | residence. There were-some samples made by IVINS' group using a 1950's protocol. Nutrient agar which was missing the salts was used, and the samples were allowed to "just sit and sit and sit". IVINS believes these samples were only Vollum 1B and not Ames. IVINS verified that the Bioport vaccine challenge using RMR 1029 was conducted with rabbits at USAMRIID for Bioport. IVINS did not send Ames to Bioport. When IVINS was at Battelle Memorial Institute, some of the Battelle employees talked about work PERRY MIKESELL did with Ames in the early 1990's. IVINS thought it very strange because IVINS never sent Ames to Battelle. He since wondered if MIKESELL might have sent it to himself or taken it with him when he left USAMRIID. NOTE: IVINS was interviewed in his office while waiting for FBI Computer Analysis Response Team (CART) personnel to mirror the hard drive on his desktop computer under a consent search form SEerEL