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. Continuation of F-302 of s owt 1 , * 7 —_ FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) | ; € @ |: 315E-HQ-1448534° Ali Hasan Al-Majid :On 04/09/2004 __,Page .. 2 separated the saboteurs from the Iranians, and ended sabotage . Operations. The interviewer playéd a segment of the samé audiotape from approximately 14:49 to 16:16. : . Al-Majid acknowledged that the audiotape played is a recording of his voice and his words. He added that this tape may have been recorded at the samé méeting which was just previously - discussed or from a meeting with Nazar Khazraji, Iraqi Army Chief. of Staff, and Yunis Zareb, Fifth Corps Commander, among others; discussed during a previous interview. During this meeting, Al-Majid is reviewing the positive results of the "gathering" of the villages. Al-Majid notes to the attendees that previous orders and decrees éxisted directing action against the, saboteurs. However, there was "no enthusiasm regarding or execution of" these directives. In fact, somé individuals, such as Army Commander Talita Al-Duri, did not "follow up on their work!" and destroy buildings as had been directed. Al-Majid stated that some villages had already been declared as prohibited before he was assigned as Secretary General of the Northern Bureau. These prohibited areas weré specified on . maps. Regarding the statement "I know how rotten the Army is. I am its son, and its commander, " Al-Majid stated that he was a civilian who was giveri military rank in 1991. He added that he was not the Army's "son." Al-Majid noted that he was a member of the: military wing of the Party from 1968-91. . Al-Majid: further stated that when he said "I am its son, and its commander, " he did not Mean that he was, technically, a military commander. He was referring to the time during which served in the military wing of. the Party. , ; In 1991, Izzat Ibrahim Al-Duri, Muhammad Al-Zubaidi, Mizban Hadi, and.Al-Majid were all given military ranks. At the time, Al-Majid was serving as Minister of Interior. Al-Duri was given the rank of General, Al-Zubaidi and Hadi were given the ranks of Major General, and Al-Majid was made a Lieutenant General. ‘Al-Majid reiterated that he had served as a ‘commander in the Party's military wing, not in the professional Iraqi Army.