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Approved For Release 2001/04/02 : CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010003-8 FLYING SAUCERS continued BARNEY: I thought I was inside something. But I did not dare open my eyes. I had been told to keep my eyes closed by the man I saw through the binoculars. poctor: Was this one of the men in the road? BARNEY: No. These men in the road . . . they took me and carried me up this ramp. pocror: Carried you up the ramp? BARNEY: I know I was going up something, and my feet were dragging. Doctor: These are the men who flagged you down? BARNEY: YES. pocTor: How many were there? BARNEY: I thought I saw a cluster of six men: Because three of them came to me and three did not. pocTor: How were they dressed? BARNEY: They were all in dark clothing. And they were all dressed alike. poctTor: Were they white men? BARNEY: I don’t know by the color. But they did not seem that they had different faces from white men....- pocror: Did they tell you why they were stop- ping you? BARNEY: They didn’t tell me anything. They didn’t say anything. pocTor: Were these men holding you? BARNEY: They were by my side, and I had a funny feeling because I knew they were holding me, but I couldn’t feel them. ...I felt floating; suspended. . . . I opened my eyes. pocror: What did you see? BARNEY: I saw a hospital operating room. It was pale blue. Sky blue. And I closed my eyes. pocror: Do you remember the operating room when you had your tonsils out? . . . Was that op- erating room in the hospital blue? BARNEY: No. It was bright lights. . . . But this room was not like that. It was spotless. pocror: Did you feel you were going to be operated on? BARNEY: No. pocror: Did you feel you were being attacked in any way? BARNEY: No. pocror: You said your groin felt cold. : +: BARNEY: I was lying on a table, and I thought someone was putting a cup around my groin, and then it stopped. And then I thought: How funny. ... If I keep real quiet and real still, I won't be harmed. And it will be over. And I will just stay here and pretend that I am anywhere and think of God and think of Jesus, and think that I am not afraid. And I am getting off the table, and I've got a big grin on my face, and I feel greatly relieved. And I am walking, and I am being guided. And my eyes are closed, and I open my 56 100k 10-4-66 eyes, and there is the car. And the lights are off, and the motor is not running. And Delsey is under the seat. And I reached under and touched her, and she is in a tight ball under the seat, and I sit back. And I see Betty is coming down the road, and she gets into the car, and J am gtinning at her and she is grinning back at me. And we both seem so elated, and we are really happy. And I’m thinking: Ir isn’t too bad. How funny. I had no reason to fear. And we look, and I see a bright moon. And I laugh, and say: Well, there it goes: pocror: You mean this object was gone? BARNEY: Yes. . . . It was going. pocTor: Going. Could you still see it? BARNEY: It was a bright, huge ball. Orange. It was a beautiful bright ball. And it was going. And it was gone. And we were in darkness, and I put on the lights of the car, and looked down the road. And we began driving, and I could see a slight incline, and then I drove and came back to Route 3, because I was on a cement road. And Betty and I feel, I feel real hilarious, like a feeling of well-being and great relief. pocTor: What were you relieved about? BARNEY: I am relieved because I feel like I’ve been in a harrowing situation, and there was nothing damaging or harmful about it. And I feel greatly relieved. pocror: And the flying object was gone? BARNEY: Yes. Betty is giggling, and she said: Do you believe in flying saucers now? And I said: Oh, Betty, don’t be tidiculous. Of course, I don’t. And we heard a beeping, and the car buzzed, and I kept silent. pocror: You heard a beeping. BARNEY: Beep—beep—beep—beep—beep. pocror: Did they soundlikesome of these beeps you get on a radio, when you have code signals? Or what did they sound like? BARNEY: Beep—beep—beep. . - . I thought it was strange. . .. And at the first beep or two, I touched the steering wheel with my finger tips because I thought I felt a vibration when I heard the beep. Andas it continued, Betty looked to the back, and I slowed the car down and stopped. And I said to Betty: Is there something shifting in the car? poctor: Did she say anything about hearing the beeps? ~ BARNEY: She said: What is that noise? And we looked in the back, and Delsey had climbed up on the back seat, and her ears were popped up, and the beep, beep, beep. And I said: Oh, oh, do you think the thing is still around? I called it a thing; Betty called it a flying saucer. And we had no answer. .. . 1 wonder if I can make the car do that. So I drove the car fast and then would de- celerate, rapidly. And I swerved over to the left of the highway and back to the right. And I came to a complete stop and accelerated rapidly. But I could not seem to get that sound. And we drove down the highway. And I saw the road for the ex- ptessway: 17 miles to Concord. And I drove to Concord, and down Route 4... . A few minutes later: BARNEY: . . . She asked me did I believe in fly- ing saucers. And I did not want to say what I real- ly believed. poctor: What did you teally believe? BARNEY: I believed that we had seen and been a part of something different than anything I had ever seen before. pocror: Did you fear you had been kidnapped? BARNEY: I didn’t use that word. I did not feel that I had been kidnapped. But I think of kid- napping when you are being harmed. pocror: And you weren’t harmed? BARNEY: No. pocror: You had no idea why this was done? BARNEY: I was anxious to get home and look at my groin. ... [thought, this is proof that some- thing happened to me. And I was unsure. And I would waver, feeling that it can’t be. And then I would think: But it did happen. And I would think: When I get home and look at my groin, I will touch whatever touched me and see if there is a mark. I drove home, and I went into the bath- room and examined myself and saw nothing wrong. And I went into the bedroom, and I kept thinking that something is around me. I went to thewindow, and [looked upinto the morning sky, and I went to the back door and opened it and looked at the sky. And I thought: Something is around, somewhere. And Betty and I retired, talk- ing. Wasn't that strange, whatever happened. And I could not remember anything that hap- pened except that I was at Indian Head. And I went to bed. And when we woke up, we decided we would not ever tell anyone. . . . When the second session was finally over, Dr. Simon reviewed the case in the first real light that had been thrown on the amnesic period. Although he was still somewhat skeptical at the end of this session, he was beginning to believe that some incident involving a UFO was at least partly responsible for Barney Hill’s severe emo- tional upheaval. But he was baffled by the second part of his patient's story—the part detailing the supposed “abduction” by humanoid beings. He hoped that Betty Hill could provide some ex- planation for her husband’s account, and he scheduled a session the following week in which she would retrace, under hypnosis, the long jour- ney home. In the next issue of LOOK: Under hypnosis, Betty Hillrelivesa strange physical ex- amination aboard the UFO, describes an unusual book she tried to take from the ship, a space map on the wall and recounts her conversations with the uniformed men, in Part Two of The Interrupted Journey, to be published by The Dial Press, Inc. Approved For Release 2001/04/02 : CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010003-8