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FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) be -l b7c -1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/30 /2 003 telephone mmbexL___—ids eing advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview,[ | provided the following information: date of birth and works for He is not and never has been a “hacker." He does not like the term hacker and rarely uses the word. He does have an ehavior and thus one would see_"hackers" He does that strictly to get He has three b6 -6 computers that are networked in the house and he uses a wireless - router, His ISP is Cox Cable. He has no formal education in DIC -6 computers and it is purely a hobby of his. He has a criminal justice degree. He did not want to reveal his email address but stated that he uses| He also uses his website for email and he can use any Ito get email. He knows Adrian Lamo although he does not consider him a friend. He knows very little about _Lamo's personal life and described Lamo as weird. 2 several years ago. This all took place through Instant Messaging or email. Lamo set up an account on Lod ~ - when Lamo started getting into trouble. He does be —6 . not think that Lamo even used the account. bIC -6 He has never met Lamo and does not know what his habits are or who his friends are. His only contact was through the Internet and his last contact was at least six months ago. His knowledge of Lamo is mainly derived from newspaper articles. He knows that Lamo seems to take_advantage of open proxy servers to do whatever it is Lamo does. stated that he has heard that most people do not think that LamO is as talented as the media portrays him. He assumes that Lamo uses Kinko's because of convenience and anonymity. He really has no first hand knowledge of Lamo's escapades or the reason he goes where he goes. He knew that Lamo had a Toshiba laptop at one point because Lamo told him that. Investigation NV File Date dictated by hy ra FBI(19-cv-1495)-428 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to yout agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency.