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t ‘ -Z- Ritler bos a great prychological weakness, according to Yon Viegrnd, it being a mrked fear of dDeing considered weak, He will ¢€o things to preclude an appearance of venknese and appeare to compensate for this fear. In talking with hie, Yon “legend Glains he noted three personalities =~ the statesman, the politician, and the demagogue. . . - You Wiegand stated that , eter expressed binself that he felt certain of victory in Zurepe, and that while if the United States came int> the wor as an ally of Xngland it would no doubt Celay the outcome, it would not change the final result in any manner. Eitler wae very moch irriteted and impatient is responee to an isquiry on the Anzis' coaing ovor to the United States. He eaid it wee nonsense, invsding the United Strtes = it was fantastic. le etated, *Whnt do you think I went?® Von ‘Legend replied, “But if you defeat England, you will get ite Nevy--" Hitler interrupted etating, "J am not being sisled by any ides that J will get the British Mevy even in a British defeat. Anyvay the old fleets are mo good. The British flest will be junked by the end of the var or at euch time when we might get it. Furtheraore, fleets: are- mot as important in moderns war as they were,® 4 You Niegnnd stated he then neked Hitler srout the Fifth Coluan in the United “tates, and Eitler replied thet it didn't exiet. Hitler, accordin: to Yon “Legnnd, said, "If President Roosevelt thinke be can via a war with the Fifth Column, let bis try it.* The Fifth Column (Yon Wiegand agreed with Hitler) was a name for collective opposition, not propagsndiets. It was, according to hin, a fighting column in Madrid. Yon Wiegan4 said thet was what it wae eince ho saw it operating there. Hitler told Yon Yiegand, “We oan conquer from the air, but how cas we get pear the United .. Rtotes. Airoraft carriers are obedlete ani they will be ecrap iron - anyway no big bombers can take off from thor.* Hitler then agin repeated, “Xe enn't cot the English fleet - we haven't the fleet ourselves = we wouldn't be able to build ons, and furthermore, wo - don't want anything over there anyway.* fon Yiegund etated that he : added very pointedly, “That goes for South America $00.") Yon YLegani then anid that he queried Hitler about hie trade methods, and Hitler replied thxt "if we hove better sethods, ‘ why shouldnt w we use ) thent® | - ” referring to theaselves. 25 eo. . = ~ tee - a . a. bd : « ~ . a > we . . 7 ew ye ‘we ” . . ee hie ee . ae ad a Ne Sa ~ a a. . idee . Z