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“es “ @ f yy FD-302 (Rev. 3-10-82) -1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 10/2/95 ABNER @. fre Date of Birth (DOB) January 21, 1926, current homé”adaress440"New, “Jersey, ‘Avenue, _ SE, Washington, D. GC. HOWE "CSTéephone (202) 543-9360, work telephone (202) 456-2632 ‘jas. interviewed by a Special Agent (SA) of the FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (FBI}. Judge MIKVA verified he is currently the Counsel to the President of the United States. The interview was conducted in the presence of Trial. attorney[ Jos the b6 United States Department of Justice (USDOJ), Public Integrit b7c Section (PIS). Also present during the interview was L Associate Counsel to the President. The interview was conducted in Judge MIKVA’s office located in the West Wing of the White House. Judge MIKVA was advised he was being interviewed concerning the referral letters he sent to the DOJ, dated August 8, 1995. These letters provide information obtained from public financial disclosure reports and White House Counsel’s Office files and concern ANTHONY LAKE, National Security Advisor (NSA) and SAMUEL BERGER, Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security. The referral letters indicate both LAKE and BERGER failed to divest themselves of certain energy/petroleum stocks after the request was made in 1993. Judge MIKVA advised he has been the Counsel to the President since September 15, 1994. MIKYA will leave that position on November 1, 1995, and JACK INN, currently Vice President GORE’s Chief of Staff wilT™@sé6éumé"the position. Concerning the referral letters, Judge MIKVA advised it came to see MIKVA to advise tha the financial disclosure statements filed by TONY LAKE and SAM BERGER revealed they had not divested themselves of certain stocks. Judge MIKVA advised that these were considered to be "modest holdings" and it was his opinion that there was no intent to violate the law by either LAKE or BERGER. MIKVA determined that each official had apparently "not gotten around to" what was agreed to earlier in 1993. va Investigation on 9/27/95 at Washington, D.C. Fiey WMFO 58A-WE-200802 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agent : it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 b7C 9/29/35