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( ' Abbott Howard Hoffman Abbie Hoffman: Do you have any evidence that, you know of any occasiors like the story that was on Channel 13 last week about FBI infiltrating radical groups and planning bombings, pianning to kili people and, in some cases actually carrying them out? Do you know this film I'm referring to? iat ath 4 sack Anderson: Yes, Efrem Zimbalist Jr, couldn't infiltrate any radical group. They have informants, sure, they'll buy informants or they'll or somebody who gets disgruntled might go to them and they'll use them as informants, But to say that agents have infiltrated these groups is ridiculous. That's one of their problems, their agents are....because they all look alike and have these short sideburns and the all American wheaties eating lock, they're incapable of infiltration. That they do have a lot of informants, that's true. And, they're informants, they have informants both in the mafia and various branches of the revolution. i t he Abbie Hoffmen;: Why have they had so much difficulty given that guise, in infiltrating say large business corporations who are guilty of, you know, for example the story that you broke this week about the o11 companies ignoring the wage price feeze. This would seem to be a violation of, you know, some kind of federal law..... Jack Anderson: They havem jurisdiction. Abbie Hoffman: . They have frrisdiction over organized crime certainly and they.....didn't they just recognize it about a year and a half ago? gack Anderson: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Mr. Hoover said that there was Ro organized crime until he got jurisdiction over it and then he admitted that there was a mafia, after that he said there was no mafia. It was quoted quite, auoted uh... quite frequently, disagreeing with the Narcotics Bureau “whieh » di «=