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Abbott Howard Hoffman Abbie Hoffman: Do you have any evidence that, you know of any occasions like the story that was on Channel 13 last week about FBI infiltrating radical groups and planning bombings, - pianning to kill people and, in some cases actually carrying them out? Do you know this film I'm referring to? gack Anderson: Yes, Efrem Zimbalist Jr. couldn't infiltrate any 4 radical group. They have informants, sure, they'll buy ; informants or they'11 or somebody who gets disgruntied might ; go to them and they'll use them as informants. But to say that agents have infiltrated these groups is ridiculous, That's one of their problems, their agents are...,because f they all look alike and have these short sideburns and the ail American wheaties eating look, they're incapable of \ infiltration. That they do have a lot of informants, that's aa true. And, they're informants, they have informants both in the mafia and various branches of the revolution, Abbie Hoffman; have they had so much difficulty given that _ guise, in infiltrating say large business corporations who are guiity of, you know, for example the story that you lg 3 broke this week about the oil companies ignoring the wage te price feeze, This would seem to be a violation of, you know, i some kind of federal law..... Jack Anderson: They havero jurisdiction. Abbie Hoffman: ; They have jirisdiction over organized crime certainly and they.....didn't they just recognize it about a year and a half ago? - gack Anderson: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Mr. Hoover said erates that there was no organized crime until he got furisdiction a over it and then he admitted that there was a mafia, after that he said there was no mafia. It was quoted quite, quoted uh... quite frequently, disagreeing with the Narcotics Bureau which -«ll - AWARE a ae