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ee lene = - ‘ ° 1 of Abbott Howard Hoffman } subsidiary corporations control more television stations around the world than any other corporation I believe. At least they control more than CBS or NBC controls. Of course it's &@ problem, of course it's a problem and I think we should be concerned abaut it but I know of no agency in the United States Government that is concerned, I've tried te get the USIA to take an interest in this, And I've talked to ambassadors abroad when I've been in foreign countries. You know, they keep track of the local newspapers and we spend & lot of dough translating all these foreign language newspapers every day. But I don't know of any embassy that's keeping track of what message is going out to the people of those countries,.,¢ither in American television programming or in the television programming in their country, uy Abbie Hoffman: (Unintelligible) anecdocte because I (unintelligible) on the Merv Griffin Show about a month ago and, as you know I was probably blanked out of that...the show, I think I have +h, the honor of being the only person completely video censored in television's history. Nicholas Johnson: This is beautiful. You know, the marvelous thing about it,Abbie, is that you told them all ahead of time that you were going to do that in your book, you know, I mean it's like Hitler wrote in, "Mien Kiemf" (phonetic) and told them about what he was up to and hobody bought the book. And so then (unintelligible) as I recall. You had a big passage in there about the way to manipulate television and the way to demonstrate that there is censorship is to get on and be censored which in fact happened to me on that Merv Griffin Show. I don't know awe + wesw sa wy aid you ever hear about that story? Apbie Hoffman: | Oh no. Nicholas Johnson; Oh really! Abbie Hoffman: I can see you and Merv weren't hitting off the beat bDutisccoess 7. 2 * i theaoe -7-