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~~ os HOWARD NILLER: Well you're not in jail and how many times have you broken the law and you're still out. ANITA HOFFMAN: Well how many times has he been . in jail? ABBIE ROFFPWAN: Well, in away I'ma, I'ma l mean a perpetual jail because now even coming here lawyers have to argue the case in court for me to have the right to travel. I'm on something like about 50 or 60 thousand dollar bail now. I have just been arrested again even though, ah I had less to do with organizing these demonstrations thanGeneral MITCHELL himself and ah, you know ah, we ah, you know that, we ah, we're watched 24 hours a day by at least four agencies in this government and.... HOWARD MILLER: Well don't you think you deserve to be a security risk when you advocate the destroying the system? * ABBIE HOFFMAN: The book itself for me, for me to be forced to publish my own book, where 30 major publishers rejected it for me to be forced to do that, for me to have a book that the “New York Times" even will refuse to advertise is, is in a way putting me and my thoughts in a jail. HOWARD MILLER; But there are things in this book though ABBIE, I think you'll have to admit and ah, here we'll acknowledge the book te called “Steal This Book", and actually what it is, is ar.. = ¢€ descrietimof how to break the law, - § -