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Abbott Howard me man. Merv Griffin: Abbie Hoffman: Merv Griffin: ee. There would be nothing done of violence, I mean Woodstock wasn't a violent.... Violence is a.....any system that practices racism and imperialism 18 a violent system and landiords are violent people, bankers are robbers, just pushing people and Stuff like that is violence. But by the way you are provoking people and instilling fear into a large mejority of people in America? I don't know how much is a majority we never got a chance to test that - in a court because we were not tried by a jury of cur peers. Vhen the verdict came dovn ve tried by a fury of our peers in the street. And as IY said haif a million people came out in protest of the trial because they felt basically that they were en trial with us and the vhole generetion was on trial. We tried by a jury whose averaze age was 52, the judge I think vas 75 which L was a young chick compared to like Doctor Spock and their conspiracy trial where their judge was like 86. You know thev'tevery rich millionaries who live in a certain part of town and see a certain Kind of reality and when they got to the juryroom two Jurors said right off that we should be shot because of the way we dressed, Four people Still think that we are innocent but they are liberals. They think that to this day we are innocent,