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i ee a a A EN cE I Re: Lou Gordon Television Show of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, : Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, ae James Freed and Gordon Hall “Hall is supposed to emerge triumphantly as the expert on extremism in this country. So I object to that format and I wouldn't have come on except for the fact that this show paid my fare out here hence contributing to the conspiracy because I was really here to attend the revolutionary underground newspaper conference in Ann Arbor. “Gordon: What kind of a forma’: woulda you like us to have for you Mr. Hoffman? "Hoffman: Well, I think we ought to like take over the show and run it. But aside from that I would like to protest : “Gordon: You wouldn't expect me to let you take over the show now would you Mr. Hoffman? “Hoffman: Well, not without some resistance and violence which of course Mr. Hall would, would put down. All right, now I represent, I would like to comment on what you said about violence. — “4 - Gordon: All right, all right. : “Hoffman: Because you see, because you see the main, he - focused on the problem of it, the biggest threat to our society was extremism, the danger of extremism, violence coming up from extremism. When we look at the reality of American life the’ chief perpetuator of violence is the military industrial complex, the government and the police force that represents that government. That is where violence is, and it is very well indeed to go and tell people that your against violence but I think that speech ought to be directed to the military forces in Vietnam and to the police departments around this country and to the police that were in Chicago and . Mayor Daley, and I think it is a blurring of the reality of the situation. He is very concerned with the constitutional issues and I am involved in a trial that our lawyers say represents the most i fa! tabte fi oa tie he ay: aay a wag we a