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CV 176-97 DOUG LAS: Uh, ‘cause are you authorized really: and I say authorized, I mean, do you really speak, I don't know who confers authorization, but who speaks for all those thousands of young people who were in Chicago. HOFFMAN; Well, I doubt if its RICHARD NIXON, who sald. Forward together, the words of a great Ameri- can, Well, we are going forward together, not on that trip. * DOUGLAS: I didn't say that it was RICHARD NIXON who 3 was speaking for them, But is it you? HOFFMAN: No, I don't think I am. I don't consider my- self any kind of leader. We don't have any _ leaders in Yippies and we don't have any real structure. It's not a real organization. It's a slogan, really, Yippie, with an exclamation point and exemplifies a way of life, which is like the politics of ecstasy, and something that you can't really support. You have to like to join it you have to be it. You have to do it. You have to abolish the concept of money in your head. You have to get into sharing, into a sense of community with your brothers and sisters and you have to fight to defend yourself in that community. That's we. Lo ae DOUGLAS: What happened to you when you had a shirt poet made out of the American flag. | rol FOFFMAN: Yeah, BETSY ROSS sent me that, Birthday present, (LAUGHTER) Well, I was arrested when I showed up at Huack, and was sentenced to 30 days, which is currently under appeal. But this very interest, there have been about 30 arrests since mine on that Federal law. But I can watch television and see PRYLLIS ‘ DILLER go on in a mini-skirt that looks like * ‘ . ate u Mee ate ‘ 10