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[eo wom ae, eR ry 2 | | LA 176-19 ' in the streets 1s equivalent to High Mass in the Catholic Church. LIPTON stated the best way to defeat organizations such as the Yippies is for persons connected with the establishment to have a sense of humor and be able to laugh at the crazy antics of the Yippies rather than consider the Yippies as a threat, but the “One thing that the establishment cannot stand is ridicule and laughter." LIPTON was also asked the question concerning the reason for the self-defense workshop seheduled by the Yippies at the Democratic National Convention. He related that "Right wing organizations had threatened to beat up persons participating in the demonstrations at the convention and the reason for the training was to defend themselves from right wing vigilante groups," He went on to state that the security of the United States was more in jeopardy from the elements in the right wing than it was from the left. Mr. LIPTON stated that his telephone conversation with ABBIE HOFFMAN was recorded by himself and the article which he wrote for the "Los Angeles Free Press" contains all the conversation between himself and ABBIE HOFFMAN, He related the tape containing this conversation was retained by him and he would make it available if anyone so desired. During the course of interview, it was ascertained that LIPTON has authored more than 22 mystery and other novels, in addition to being a free-lance author. He advised he had written articies for numerous mizazines including "Cavalier", "Knight", and the newspaper, "The Los Angeles Free Press’, He related he had recently written an article concerning the Democratic National Convention for the "Cavalier" magazine, While LIPTON was being interviewed, he volunteered the information that he had just written an article appearing in the January 10, 1969, issue of the "Los Angeles Free Press," which was a book review of a book entitled, "Revolution for the Hell of It," written by Free, which according to LIPTON, is a pseudo of ABBOTT HOFFMAN, He made available copies of the "Los Angeles Free Press" containing copies of this article which is set forth as follows: a