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ee O CONFINENTIAL fey SNe % BS tt te te 4 ' ie ie j NY 100-161445 "'Maybe we belong there. Nobody's put up a fight like this in the history of the worlds The history of political trials is that they're all losers,’ he added, "Given the 'law that legislates against the state of mind,' he reminded the crowd, ‘only in 1984 fascism can you go to prison under the civil rights act.' "He also admitted to a conspiracy. ‘We are a conspiracy against imperialism, racism, harrassment of the youth culture and the boredom and senility of the American pig culture.! Do "Hoffman said, ‘We defy every law in the world-- including the law of gravity. What goes up doesn't necessarily have to come down,'" Iv, TELEVISON APPEARANCE On November 22, 1959, the subject appeared as a guest on a television program aired on National Broadcasting Company-Television (NBC-TV), Channel 5, WMAQ, Chicago, Illinois, with Moderator IRV KUPCINET. During the ensuing discussion, the subject stated in part as follows in response to questions by the moderator if he wanted to overthrow the whole democratic system: "Well, I'm a culture revolutionist and I think the overthrow of the U.S. government would make a mighty interesting movie, so I'm interested in it. Yes, I think it's senile, menopausal, dinosaur government, JI think capitalist system has outgrown its time. People shouldn't relate -to each other in terms of property, how much they can get off