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a i NY 100-161445 conference. He appeared with a group of approximately ten : followers, including a person introduced as his attorney. He =~ attempted to speak at times in a light vein but gained no response. 2 He referred to his present trial in Chicago and the Antiriot Law mes as against a people's state of mind and stated that people are =. being charged with their thoughts. He spoke against the Vietnam War and stated that this society was not instituted for such & purpose. a HOFFMAN stated that his trial in Chicago was like going to school where they had recess morning and afternoon and time out for lunch. He added that he was not being tried by a jury of his peers and claimed that all jurors were seated without being questioned except to be asked if they could return a fair verdict. He considered the jurors to be a group of fat, middle-aged individuals and he had no hope of a not guilty verdict being returned. He stated he does not hold the judge or the court in high esteem. HOFFMAN stated the present trial in Chicago was ' nothing but a harassment of a cultural revolution and the only thing for which anyone could be found guilty of would be contempt. He referred to the judge at his present trial as the "Hanging Judge". He further stated that BOBBY SEALE, Chairman of the BPP did not know he was going to Chicag> when arrested as he did not know what he had done. He stated that SEALE only gave one fifteen-minute speech and for this is on trial. HOFFMAN invited people to protest the Vietnam War on November 15, 1969, in Washington, D. C, They would parade —- at 5:00 p.m. on that date upon leaving Moratorium Rally and march to the Justice Department. 37 -