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« IP 1090-17576 23 HOFFMAN: "Ia. Well, I think I made that clear in the statements about the services and the goods that the technology and the society provides ere made available to whoever wants it... whoever needs it, come who may. In other words, you gear your society so that you will produce goods so that they will become abundantly available to everybody. You kmow. You like recognize that we don't live in a society of scarcity. We live in a society of abundances. That's why like a lot of Marxist thinking has to be like rethought. So, like, all that abundance you just take and you just give it away. As fast as you can. See. UNKNOWN: “Okay. Now let me ask you this. .. HOFFMAN: 7, . . and now your work goes ... I'm not saying like there won't be anybody to do like what you call work. You see. Because I = | don't call that work. I call that love or playing _} or things like that. Things that people like to do. But you work towards that vision, you see, and you hold that in mind. So when you get stuff, you like give it away. Right. Dig it. Noww get some mre and give it away. UNKNOW: “Okey now. What are your objectives - specifically, objectives you are hoping to achieve? HOFFMAN: “I just said it. That's very specific. What do you want? More? c “How epecific? I don't think .. I don't . « Prepaid toilets is what this country was made to do. I mean pay toilets in the subway. You gotta pay for that. Ten cents to go to c---, It's ridiculous. You know. I don't think you should pay for education .. .« | UNKNOWN: "Okay. Let me ask you. . maybe I should ask it this way. .. of the established Govermment and all that we have available to us. $ -38-