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KELLEY Ni. veel Public coafidance in FBR “i's boon seriously aid is very necessary thal we so aursclves 2nd develop programs to ater credibility.” assauheod, conuuct bring about gre FRE corrintion: “it has never baen a problem. | don baniicipate that it ever will be." fasnion soiss: “We're gotiing an increcsing num- ber ef complaints’ frrem members of Coagrdss ubvul spy activity on Capitol Hill, Figsting trivorists: “l can't say that we have Phen cmuncenuy succecssiui, bacause we haven't.” 4 "Pleas wiihin the Burcaou: “Exhacotive ivesti- gation has over revealed that.a bertiie fercian mmichitence service has ever surcaeastuly raeruit eu or creamed en cmoploye of the FBL” Gioerire: ao tings: “We've infiltrated! tham "nad fries fahem to the point where they're moot ies . trusting of thar fellow members.” is “There are no adress where we me bieda candste to ga out and “ tiation Go Hie abet wey athe tev. t ik fot CLEANING UP THE FBI *§ Fintervicw continued from Prece.ting pege) . us. Our aronts in charge, for fxample, care Whad's recuired, and they lock for thal in the, man or aman Whom they interview. fo a sort of self perpetr t+ ha thing, amd f doat know of any Joss of this sanded und Ps inede ol bebavior whatsoever, Cis & hast Juis you disclosed iat the FBT fiad careied” out undveds of “black bag” jobs—in effect, burhuics. Do you creado gny fomuer er presceat officials er uvents of the Hew ta de presseuted for their pact in seen burglaries? a ihat's sub onder review by the (Justice} Department Mr as any powitly erimind action is concerned, T think Sy Ee fos: ay Ueat from: our review of it thus far, we have od ace where any PRE employe acted in other than a ehaath belief that the actions he teok were properly horbasdt by the Bure. 5 Bal pemeccution bacavt been ruled out— a Proocoe has wet bern riled ont. 7 GL Are (here thins that Ball agent shoutd be allawed vote daat would be dG if they were dene by an ordinary Hecen, ereven canember ata loval police force? 4s TPuere are no areas where we jest have some broad eredhe tons out and vielute Get Law. Moething we dois in mou ay ithe Bae haw, Que amechagily fo carry a an is why Weonet a courbappraved warnient in line: criviaal asabie evtent, ti ike we thie saat it, Hy glabag welia aen narmied tobe Pha at Stee 1G a CCS Wid ite COMMA PAG Wit + io ne eriticign: that we cheose people who are, to a consid- peop tlm hyo with at the authority to in. tall ~ ~ cases, and Chil micraphone. Q Would you view Woas auseful tual te have re dees wuthorily to commit what would otherwise be adburshiy | the course of your law-enforcement aclisiltes? A tn the first ploct, if weee ueanted permission fron the Aliorney Coneral or the President, we would not terns it a burglary. St would be a “surreptitious cntey conducted un- der fawful auihority,” which is nota vichuion. ( there should be a great need, fin sure this would be con side red. Hut we have not done any such thing since Vos in the domestic-seturity field, and we do not presently conten: - plite dorng it. G@ Do you perenaliy think it would be Would sou dike tu have that power? A Not in the domestic field. We would never ask for that * power or consider it. Q Whal chances in the day-to-day operations of the War reau will have to be nade to conform with the cuitelines which have just been laid down by the Attarney Geucral? A In the first plhice, these guidelines refer, to the greatest extent, to domestic intelligence, which comprives Cron: 1 tu 12 per cent of our work, Others will be cencerned with foreign inteliigence—$ ta 10 per cent of our werk-—aad 2 wide range of matters reiting to the investivative responsi- bilities of the PBL They will delineale preiiy caretiliv haw we go about our duties in these areas—how fn we go. For example, in the present situatica we're pretty well free to determine where we go in these demertic-intell- gence and security cases and when we stop. Mow there will be three catesouies: the profiniinary, Gee tasted ack Uke fil investigation, That will caus: some svucturing and some now procedures. There will be some revisions, but I den‘t think the; will be crippling, by any means. At toast ii gives us sce weil defined wide! ines, and we'll be able ta work osc. t Q Wiet sent of domestic orvanizations veil still be ject to F GL hivestigation tnder these guidtetines? A Jhose which advocate the overthrov of the Govern: ment by force and violence. That's one of the MUS TETIES by which we jude whether an organization will le ise tel. Q liate we vol any Hke Uhat today? A Most of them are the inecorit arcups—-fur cxrmple, the Weather Underground and the Varios “Hbersion army" groups aad the Puerto Ricaat natien alist groupe anc thaen of the . o tose OF Li thou aaply ef stcui- ag | ee ee 7 BVO Wey a Tt h ort - cats: Mm = shia ~ teed as bink hei eae more pe Write waive t ed their vielenee-prone pranensities Unrougay besawings and saine of their other activities. Qi ts the thrust of these guidelines quite She onpeasite of what you thougit shoul) have been dene when you look over? A LT still cling to the idea that we shoatl have broader capabilities in domestic-inbak wee meiters. F still fool that we should have cleelronic surceillasce, Pui this is another mW. aan which would be schiced io levishuion. M Are yun yeing te Salt fur these tings ¢ should be dure? ° A Tos point to bike Uhevn as the time cumes to try to pet them. PT deo't know that VU Gchit for thei. fen taindy have expressed myoel as deciring chem. With the pwuclines firmly catropeted, with us showing Chat we can co claindy work within the struciere, then porhaps we cast pe tind ancl ask for and jel con adheration fur eleetroae sary ciliner in domosticdnlelliacnce ca os, For cvxcuuple, in the terrorist activities, whit: they rae theanging us, Ethdak thet we shold de esers thing: we cai, Lut te obviowty cant get such legishtion mow. Berkus {ater en we can. ; QO Doorou feel hampered hat you (ik we ard } sds sour COR to deet with WE ows FONG REQ, Agia, ie Her: Fier: at oy ie