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a cnet a ee |. : aa os - | an 7 9. sand, particularly ominous, revolutionary and violent in their actions. "The administration of the Bureau at that time Jqoked upon this with fgreat fear as to what would liappen if they were to continue. And "Jt appears that without propor jegisiation, without proper guards rom a continuation, that it would. So these efforts were instituted. They were, I think, sto some degree, at least, successful. At any rate, they were terminate ‘in 1972, and they have not been re-instituted, and 1 have no ptans, jno ne intention to re-institute then nc. a LEHRER: Well above and beyond the particular groups {that nay be invalved, whethef it’s the daw Levt or tne ule right, or whatever politically, do you feel that this is a basic technique, that that is a legitimate technique to be employed by the FBI? 4 KELLEY: Well, of course, you posed a question which as a Tot of ramifications. ito, I don't think it is a basic techni- ue which needs to be employed. J think that you should have legisla- ton which enables you to properly control. With such legislation, n . : inn inta thie type af thina LEY Ld ere > to yM imts eri tw Ye ellen wd eat bday ry The field of law enforcement is growing insofer as its capobility. “Where in years gane by about all you cid in most cases was to interview and try to get a statement,. now you do a great deal more. And with the complexity of the society today, there's aneed for additional legislation. I'm asked on occasion, what dkind of Jegislation would you need in order to do this type of thing? I don't know that we would ever need legislation to do this type meot thing. tie need legislation that'il enable us to do less and £ stit] accomplish the job. 7 : ; We don‘ t want to ao into this type of thing. If that era when there was so much alarm, it was felt soniething had to be 'Gdone. All right, it was done. And I don't think that there was any great harm wrought és a result of it. But the thing about it is they dicn't stand by. And one of the greater faults would be ainactivity, not doing something about it. .They did do something ° about it. And certainty fan not mysclf saying thet I would do the same thing. But 1'}1 tell you that when you ‘feel, such as the {threat was, that the nation was being brought to its knees » you'd better be doing Sone tiing about it ar you're going to be on your knees. And that's not a posture that eny American wants to assume, 1 a ’ LEHRER: What about the. gencral quesi tion that this raises : pond also Watergate raises to a certain ds grec? fet me just ask \ “you the gucstion. Uo you feel that FaT-agents should be permitted ’ to commit itleqal acts, such as burglary, illegal wiretaps, if ait is in the fhterest of national security, or if it is in the interest of the kind of thing you're talking ehout, on sowehody's opinion ve! re on the verge of revolution, or sSonuething like that? I know it's a fine tine. J Know it*s a tough question. Cut where do you soc. your parameters? UYhere would you draw the parameters? +