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° ¢ “up 26. First of all, were those items maintained in your care ' . » s 105 Oitker - Direct was opened? A Yes. Q Approximately how long did it take to get that safe open or at least as long as you were there? A 15 to 20 minutes. , re) And who physically worked on that to get it open? A Several of us tried. Agent McDowell, he actually succeeded. Q I ask you to take in your hand now Government's Ixhibit No. 26 and_27 and look those over, please. Are you familiar with those items, sir? A Yes. Q “what are the items that you hold in your hand at this time? A These are miscellaneous papers, checks, that were all found inside of the safe when we opened it. There was expended .22 Magnum cartridge and live .22 Magnum round. Q All those papers were found in that particular safe? wa A Yes. Q I will now hand you a scissors and ask you to open custody and control since the time they've been seized? A Agent McDowell was the seizing agent during the ee TENG. execution of the warrant. es es re et TD, 7