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Sen Joseph Joe Mccarthy — Part 37
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thay day a th nt. cause of dislogalty. GME hy
: bert Bastire at tw of the ments ~~ BE ye ts Mik busts ine, the...
of thé Board that in the gdtsup casé ~ head of the. Security Divisions was one
ay werd unablé. ta order. him dis-, meet-the-press program. He wad asked, :
i because they were tied down to about tha statement, and he replied;
¢é'strict loyal McCarty’
y rule’ that $¢ was the “No: that.ia another, o
¥ feeling of the majcrity of the Boord that lies.” He sald, “Of course, we haye dis
bd they were allowed to atder & discharge .. charged & sizable‘number.?. 1 tila he ''
a!
écaucé of & than Héing a bad eecurity ° set the figure at 18 or 25—I 24 not
ow
a Fisk, Jossup woud have been ordered dis- .which—who, were discharged because of “
p Rharced, § rn _-. distoyalty; Fer that renson f think this -
Agoin they bring up the Hervice case, is,rather Interesting: ? to 3 :
Re ace 49, and dicevss all the infartiay ‘Again, we have this criticism meade of |.
Rtlon abaué Service having lived with at the State, Department Board. ‘Keep fs y
Peip!cnade zent for 2 years, his journeys mind that I am referring solely to ¢ po
Bes the Communist headquarters, one in “Loyalty Board minutes on various dates, -”
Phartiduler after the conference with Vin= ( ‘This 1s what one of the members of the.
Went and Wallace. They Have the num- "Board hag to sayy a
Bher of the automabiie hé drove,.c Goy+... when they (the State Department} ‘oper~
drnment car, and the course of travel to ,“ ate as ths do--merely showing a tesignas +
Bieommunist headquarters. ° ©», - ¢ x tion of thé Indifidual, and he haa this copy.
Be of. the members, healt dicclisaing - from the rate Department, he imme
wy ite . af . es over.to ahother agency an ao
a; bE iate Department Board std, fof.» pave wor bd. tor ‘the Biot Depéirtmélit ter. :
y " . utr om Es . ao o e ~
BE tn the third case, we found that thd State 7 T resigned ee re eo” There is notita *
FMepartinent. had A Haring and only the . ing on the petsotine! action stect to tell’ -
hatrman., Mr. Snow, sat through tha entire tne persofinel officer that there jean tne
Ptibaring. itv fact; there was a eeried of hear- .'' sestiration on that persor.: He geth a jobs,"
a iga-—prouably threé-—but thd. other mem. or the perso thay be interested In hint.
here of the Board changed and no member) © for other, employment, and has to ko rubs. ,
Pyther than Mr. Snow, eat throughout tha” ning around to the Government to flid put.
pO ee Ep aye | cif there has been an investigation on thd -
» a ehifrman pintd out that ih this) ™!™ See
M particular cass of & min accused bf bez,” A very good cxainple of this wav. the. *
Pacis ® Communist at et thes hearind’-” case of Peveril' tJe'gs. On February 20, °
me itartéed,. one € siembers of the '-1 believe; I latd before the Senate the
apoitd. wha from the best infopmation I” ease of Peverill Melgs. The. State Tee '
Ai 1 Het, Was unfriendly to the care bf 4" partment held # hearing. They knew. >
ahs eniployee, was kent off A-siission to that they could not concelvaly clear
SHbraitdr, and apother. sent somewhere | Peverill ‘Melea, even with thé type of”
pice Abfosd. So thet we get the picture . Board which they have. What did they *
ei thi¢ proceeding, . Afterthe hearing * do? They notified him that he ‘ould: .
} tarted wud it was found that two of the © not be cleared, so he then resigned, went .
nreé fembers were inclinéd ta hold over to the Army and got a job.in the |
Pb cuinst this particular man, one of them .* Army, with no notification to the Army *
Ras xent.{o Gibraltrr on a mission, so" that this man was an extremely bad.
Bthat hé was off the Board, and a new ' security risk because of close associatton
Mamber was brought in who did not hear, with espionage agents. It was oniy -
‘and @#econd member also. after we culled the Army's Attention to ”
vad setth gn a tmnission-to Europe, where ., the case that the Army Loyalty Board |
it do nob know. =. tt. took the case up, and, of colirse, they
BA Listen to thi#: The chairman is dis- promptly ordered him discharged. :
f tissing this case, and he points out that.', Let me point out again that. this is-.
me al this ase the wife, who was known ta 7 not merely criticism by McCaruit, The
be a Communist, was allowed to sit next - Loyalty Board as a whole, with the ex-
mtd the husband and coach the husband. ‘ception of a Mr. Alger, apparently agreed
Band telt him what to answer... :' wholeheartedly that the State Depart-
By, In # umber of inetances the answef " ment was doing a very dangerous thing |
would be given in thus way; Ha would, by allowing Communists to resign with
be asked about a certain incident, as to:. 4 clean record, enabling them to fo to.
whether he had done thus and s¢ oft & » some other branch of the Government
bertairi date. Aftet conferring with his - and get @ Job. . - eo te
wife hig bnawer woul be, “I will follow’ » * the Board 5 shia.
Fe the answer in my letter which I wroté © One of the Board members asked this
; $o you-some time, ago.” He was not wWestiom: - a eee
lorced ta go beyond that. .- a. , What are you going td do. whert the ats
~ he chairman also points out that he. eh” a Pre me anarney ae “ne
‘e , talked with the Secretary of State and = {ncumbent? I read 100 pages of the record
a ‘urged the Geeretary of State to tell the where 3 members. of the Buard were acting ,
i Loyaity Board members to behave them- as attorneys for the employee.
selves. The secretary to the Board “yo me . :
M pointed out thet throuchout the pro- ange at the other members spoke up
Fe Le oe ee ee eemaodl# 0% you are talking about thi Stara Ded
an the grounds bf re it acm A" “partment. They ate, taking the attitudd
grou oyally, nk that thay are there td elear thé employee and
F' this is interesting, in view of the fact _ not to protect the Government. We have:
or that some time ago I had made public © been arguing with them since the program
information ta the effect that cut of started. ;
$ ‘
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"up and sald:
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a
Another member of the Board spoke
That brings up a question that has been
in my mind a little. and I have been accused
a few times In connection with tt. There |
been disturbed about the State, Dejart-
ment—their remarkable record of ever hav
ing fired anybody for loyalty, and yet we tio ‘
nothing about tt as far as the Board ts con-
cerned. Ido not doubt that Larry-~
That is Mr. Meloy .
does all be can fn the echelona that he eon
fench, but I have been troubled sbeut
whether or not we owe the duty of having
somebody call the attention of the Presi-
dent, for example, to the fact that the pro-
gram simply does not work in thet Depart-
ment. and jet him worry about it. It seca |
to me we assume some responsiutlits whet
wo sit back for 3 yenrs and Know that the ,
country rests in 4& false sense of recurity
that we are looking after their Interests here
then we know darn well that it Is come,
pletely ineffective In one of the most iin-
portant departments of the Government and
I wonder whether we ought to say anything —
to anybody about it.
It ts pointed out later that the Stnie
Department Loyalty Board ix the only
departmental loyalty baard which has
never found anyone inctigible, . They
bod cleared every one of the cuses,
may say that uv until June 24 of Inst
year, letters of charres had been filed in
slightly more than 8C0 cases— .
sul
of the FBI investi.
. . rae
The thairman goes on to say frat he
called the attention of the Seerctary of ©
State to this situation, Let me quote
' whatghe said: we
t . .
The Secretary of State was very much
Impressed by What I said. He received my
remarks very kindly. He acked me ons or
two questions about resignations, ete. Fors
tunately, thanks to the documeht which
had been prepared for me by Mi." Metoy, I
had the facta vith regard to all departments
in confection with restgnations, and 60 01,
When I showed him my confidentiql state-
ment, he wre grest!y Impressed.” He sid.
“T will take the matter up at onee.” ‘That
was Friday afternoon. \
Incidentally, this was nearly a, year
ago. Although the Secretayy. . a th
chairman says, was very Kindly and sal
he would take up the matter al once, up
until today nothing has been done about
t
This, I believe, gives a betta picture of
the State Department's Loyalty Board
than I could possibly rive, except throurh
the words of the Loyalty Review Board.
J sincerely hope that the Senate will de- ~
cide ta do something about it. Obvlousty
nothing will be done uniess the Senate
takes some action. :
J also have some very interesting cor-
respondence with resard to anaiher in-
dividual whom I discussed list year by
cause of his communistic actiyitics—.
man who wns then on the pasrall of the
Defense Establishment, but leaned to the
President and working in the White
House, Sinée then ttus individual tress
been promoted tu a $17.5 U-n-vear hlty
Tbelleve that his correct Gifle is Adin
istrative Assistant to the President. in
view of his promotion to a job.of con=
siderable power in the White House, i
felt in duty-bound called upon to give the
Senate some further picture of this man,
David Demarest Lloyd.
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