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. a “ ‘o- _ i ents ual oe ate — ~ (y via |b 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—-SENATE 2049 stances the committee could do very little, because, if we gave the commit’ the names and the information, and the President said, “You cannot get any in- formation from the State Departmen files," they would be hamstrung. It was suggested that I draft a tesolution pro- viding that the Commit on Expendi- tures in the Executive Tight to subpena the secret State De partment files. That sounds all right o the face of it, Mr. President, dangerous to go that far. - As ig well known, during the Coplon trial the judge ordered the FBI to sub- mit all its secret files, tmcluding the sources of information. That informa tion was made public, and a number o: men in the FBI have stated that it set the! FBI beck 10 years. It endangered the . security of some of their best men. tate Department asked for the names, ‘ithout being willing to cooperate or to ork with us, it was saying, “Tip us off; et us Enow on whom you heve the pods.’ " The names are available. The Senators may have them if they care for them. I think, however, it would be improper to make the names Public il the appropriate Senate com- mittee Can meet in executive session and get them. I have approximately 81 cases. I do not claim to have any tre- mendous investigative agency to get the facts, but if I were to give all the names involved, it might leave a wrong impression. If we should label one man a Communist when he is not a Commu- nist, I think it would be too bad. How- ever, the names are here. I shall be glad to abide by the decision of the Sen- ate after it hears the cases, but J think I finaliy arrived at the conclusion ™ the sensible thing to do would be to have that the only way to clean out the State an executive session and have a proper Department, or any other Department g committee go over the whole situation. which is infested with Communists, is not by the passage of any additional law. The only way it can be dons is fo secure the cooperation of the President. If we could get that, and he says that the in- formation will be made available so that trusted staff members could go over the fles, and we can be sure that the sources of information shall not be disclosed, we ean clean house. I frankly think that is the only way. In line with that, I de- cided to submit to the Senate the detalled cases. Originally I was disturbed that I might give out information which would embarrass the investigative agencies by indirectly disclosing some of their sources of information, but I was told, ‘With so Many commies over here having top posi- tions, you need not fear giving the in- formation to the Senate.” I have gone over it. Let me say, be- fore starting, that I shall submit quite a large number of names. I think they are of importance. They all worked for the State Department at one time or an- other. Some are not there at the pres- ent time. Many of them have gone into work which is connected closely with the Department, for example, foreign trade, and some branches of the Maritime Com- mission. ¢ I shall not atternpt to present & de- talled case on each one, a case which would convince a jury. All I am doing is to develop sufficient evidence so that anyone who reads the Recorp will have ® good idea of the number of Commu- nists In the State Department. While I consider them all important, there are three big Communists involved, and I cannot possibly conceive of any Secretary of State allowing those three big Communists, who are tremendously important and of great value to Russia, to remain in the State Department. I de not believe President Truman knows about them. I cannot belp bu’ feel that he is merely the prisoher of a bunch of twisted intellectuals who tell him what they want him to know. To those who say, “Why do you not tell the State De- partment; why do you not give the names ta the State Department?" I say that ev- I was very happy to hear the Senator from Massachusetts say that he would move that the Foreign Relations Com- mittee appoint a subcommittee to go ints the cases. The man involved in case No. 1 is em- Ployed in the office of an Assistant Sec- retary of State. The intelligence unit shafowld him and found him contact- ing members of an espionage group. A memorandum of December 13, 1946, in- dicates that he succeeded in having a well-known general intervene with an Assistant Secretary im behalf of one man who ts an actlve Communist with a long record of Communist Party connectiens. There i5 another individual who is very closely tiled up with a Boviet espionage agency. There is nothing in the file to thdicate that the general re- ferred to knew those two individuals were Communists. That is a part of the usual modus operand! If there is one Communist in the Department, he will get some other individual to recommend another Com- munist so that the breed can be in- creased. This individual was successful in ob- taining important positions for other Communists. They were finally ordered removed from the Department not Jater than November 15 of the following year. Bubsequent to that time, however, both of them still had access to secret ma- terial. _A memorandum of November 2, 1946, pointed out that this individual and the previously mentioned Communists whom he succeeded in having placed were con- nected with an alleged Russian espion- age agency. Nevertheless, this individ- ual still occupies an important position in the State Department. I should like to point out at this time, however, that a ty maior portion of the file had been the security group, which was then oper- ating in the State Department, was ap- Parently doing # good job. It presented the entire picture to the Secretary of State. This individual who, the inves- tigate agency of the State Department says, is a Communist, got a genera! in- nocently to bring two other Communists access to the secret material. As I ony, his name ;: certainly available to any Senaie comialttee | that wants it. - Mr. LUCAS. My. President, will - Senator yield? Mr, McCARTGY. I sield. Mr. LUCAB. Will the Senator tel] us ‘the name of the man for the Recosp? We are entitled to Enow who he is. I say this in all seriousness. The Senate » @nd the public are entitled to know who * that man is, as w result of the charge “Inade by my friend. Tf he is a Commu- nist, the Senator from Wisconsin knows that the Senator from Illinois will go "Tight along with the Senator from Wis- consin. Mr. McCARTHY. The Senator can come to my office as soon as I finish and receive the names. I intend to g0 tthrough all the cases. If it is the judg- “ment of the Senate that it wants the hames exposed on the Senate floor, which would be a very unusual proced- ure, I shall be glad to ¢xpose them. The tho ne - question is too important for either the Senator from Dilinols or the Senator from Wisconsin to make the decision. If any Senate committee js actually inter- _ ested in disclosing the names—— Mr. LANGER. Mr. President, will the Senator yleld further? Mr. McCARTHY. I yield. Mr. LANGER. The Committee on the Judiciary has been investigating commu- nism more than half the year. I think the Senator from Wisconsin is entirely correct. We have never Inade a name public unless we had the consent of J, Edgar Hoover. 1, for one, went to be recorded as absolutely agreeing with the ‘Senator from Wisconsin. Mr. McCARTHY. I thank the Sena- tor from North Dakota. The Senator from Dlinols knows there is nothing sécret about the names that he cannot have. I do not ike this po- litical byplay. If we continue as we have been going, the next war will be lost before we start. I heard a commen- tator last night say that Russia has 1,200 divisions, and he stated that there were 54,000 troops in Albanis, indicat- ing that Russia is about to start the fighting part of the next war. _Tt is tremendously important that we clean out the espionage ring in our State Department. Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. McCARTHY. No. I cannot yield wat this time. Aje. &. This is a case to which I particularly invite the Benate’s attention. The files show two very interesting facts. A Major portion of the file was removed. Papers refer to information in the file which is nonexistent. Upon contact with the keeper of the records, he stated that, to the best of his Knowledge, moved. He did not mention any nam but he said, “He was put in some high brass job about 2 years ago.” IT am inclined to think that this indi- vidual’s name may be known from information which I shall give here. The file shows two things. Jt show: _ saw \ aN) into the State Department, and he is first. that this individual had some today in the State Department and has” his clothing picked up, with unusual ma- i Pe erything I have here is from the State Department's own files. I felt, when the