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i - r) - Frestiav aid the gubject ef bugriug aunt come up in a «rec, conversation between. aim ong Tleanedy until early ar. , dar, during one of his 62.2 i visits to Sen. Ken- iwi. Capitol Hill office. “Joa said to me, ‘Say, dic ~sy know that the FBI had -¢en using bugs? and I said, *S re, I anew,’ and he saic7¢ - tall i & -~ . wore + b wf ms Ptaal ‘ cr 7 . a L * : > _- . ay a ee oo er ‘ad SEN. KENNEDY (AP) a ma . - \ : i atm. a \ : . “. ae a: 1 of fo eee os eh ae fb + £YGAR GOOVER (AP) - 1 rey A ry a ep er apnea Sp ' we x - Sell, why the devil did- at you tell me? and I ex- plained to him that I assumed. he knew all along.” : Hundley’s disclosure was’ certain to add fresh fucl to the unprecedented public dis- - Rule now raging between ennedy and Hoover over who was responsible for, or. authorized, the FHI's use of widespread electrqnic_eaves- dropping during the ea/ly -. “60's, in probes of ‘crime. ° . With the Supreme Court now tossing out convictions involving evidence “tainted” by the use of illegal ‘bugs,’ both men — who have long harbored mutual antipathy— are seeking to affix responsi- bility on each other. -Hundley’s perspective ap- organized ing because he was neither a Kennedy intimate nor a Ne Oe ee ee | peared particularly interest- - ‘ley said that the FBI's wide-' Hoover fan, “butesther who served in the Justice De- partment from 1954 until 1066, under four attorney generals — two Ifegublicans “and two Democrats,” as Hundley himself puts th ’ He recigned three months ago ta take a job as execu- tive assistant to Pete Ro- zelle, commissioner of the Na- tional Football League. _ Reacher by phone, Hund- - spread introduction of “ ‘bug- ging’ in 1961 was due pri- marily to the bureau's fail- ure before that time to de- velop an adequate intelli- ‘gence system about organ- ized crime.” Huncley related—as had -other past and present of- -ficials of the Justice Depart- ment: — that “before 1958, phrases like ‘the Crime Syn- dicate’ and ‘the Mafia’ were almost dirty words at the FBI. “But after New York state police flushed out dozens of top hoods at the 1958 Ap- palachin meeting—which the FEI hadn't even known any- thing about—Hoover raised a little hob, and said they had to have better intelligence on — ‘the rackets. | “So they began sclective j use of "bugs'—vartous elec- tronic eavesdropping devices. { “Tien Bobby Kennedy came pater: ail gung-ho against the tra. 5 demanding that the - FL. -eally get into action. But the Bureau still didn’t have yany real intelligence system or resources. ee “So they apparently figured they had no_choicg but to go ~ buy ee a 4 Fr hh et ae an [into ‘bugging’ whole heg— wiict they did, and it worked - | beautifully, “But they'd nevor formally admit it to me, even sough I was the Justice Des::tment's top rackets man nd the Bureau is the inves. ative arm of the departmer.. “And it appears they n-ver toid Bob straizht-out, vithar,” Hundley said. “In fact, the only time it did officially come to licht—in the FBI's Las Vegas gammbiing ine vestigation in 1$¢3-—-Kennedy ordered it stopped,” hundley recalled, i . a -.r0 anyone wie nesn't understand the caivtionsn'p- between the FBI aac wie ret of the department, s-.4 the in- dependent power of J. Edzar: Fioover, all this may be cif-: ficult to understand,” he said. “But anyone who is familiar with the department wouldn't doubt it. for a minute.” ne eclared, — ea = = £ ; . ji = 4 H r f : m~ ro + “ahs rae a Pn ad tH. 2 * ° - 7 teoy i a Toa . Wena , 4 ' a tle . . at . ie . r * ee oo a WILLIAM G, HUNDLEY | = BFK exraide speaks ip. Ce emnaptem i + a et geed mee — - = eee Pandy ape relates Rite | batalla ool