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wh Det i4-5-64; (Mount Clipping In Space Below) Vattace Reserved— Trammell Needles | oOo BY CLARKE STALLWORTH Post-tlerald Staff Writer MONTOOMERY, April 24-Shortly before 9 a.m. taday U. §. tty. Gen. Rebert F. Kennedy walked into the office of Gov. ‘ porge Wallace. Pleasantrics were exchanzed., Hands were shaken Sitting in the room were Gov. fT-nance = Divectas Seymore Irammell; Burke | Marshall, ad of the Chal Rights Divis- san of the 1. S. Justice Dept. 1d Ed E. Reat, executive di- ‘ ctor of the Alatama League ~ Municipalities, Wallace bezan the conference th a joke about the Confed- evate flag hung behind his cexk, Wallace then pointed to a ierophone aml tupe-recorder -Ad asked Wo Kennedy minced Y the conference ! rence were tape. ! ennedy said he didnt mind. Down To Rusiness Alter a fow moments Kennedy sot down to brainess. “Cover vor, white boas here, Til like to ruk about seme ciunags likeiy ta vate up in Mibama,’ he told Wallace, Renney said Weare Tinting thare wney't he any pratlend here in Alabama’ a the desegresa- fen area, When a cour comes, he toll Wallace thal “we hope you will co along with iL” Kennedy teld Wathice that he had read things in the news- maper which he honed Wallace atidin“t mean. Wallace toll kennedy (hat he reserved the richt ta disagree “ith him “over what the baw is, lam going (a test this thing in I’ | Par"i7f Acs Ad a? Rr At Meeting order i aaoerder of vour ceaut?" pan”? me oclfecd, iy —_——————, icc: Mr. Kennedy: Alabama r “whet he this decision WARS re: reall “phe Taw af the lane, — ! Had Covenant ‘ Wallace told Kennedy that he had a covenant wilh the peo pe af Alabama in resist court arders canecrning desezregattan. Kennedy tald him the (964 de- cision of the U. S. Supreme Court was the law. and that he expecicd {a enforce it. “You were a judge.” Kennedy init Wallace. “What would you have theucht if somebody re- sisted ane af yaur orders?" “Thal iicin'L happen.” Wallace sclid, “Wouldi’'t yeu have enforerd asked hennedy, “Eorlul( hase that! slid Waltace, Wallice thea asked Kennerly “What are you seing ih | ovesist the court o hap do We arc cont ta put ful! farce af the Federal Govermmesthe Tet me order.” KETC TO lel him. ’ Trammell Talerrciupts the hope that uo will be resaived . and we wall sill have seerema- tinn down here.” Phe governor airgued with Kennedy about “‘whal is the law af the land” Wallace questioned the effecd ad Whe 145d Supreme Court decisien, and qaestioned fe Sevmore Trammell broke in. asking Kennedy af he was ooimne fo seid freoaps ta Alabama. in Ihe event of a desespegitian in- cident. “We have no plans to do that, We believe the situation ean he salved oo peacelully.” Weonerdy Jat him, mn effect, “We befieve ihe peahiem can be solved in the courts.” Trammell asker Kenocdly if he manned to pul Wallace an iil for resisting any desczregation , ‘Carder, said Kennedy. dare Sete no plans, for that | TRL AM ope oPertties—phe conference. Wale ‘ | lace remarked that he Noo Sie ported President Kennedy in the 1956 Democratic Convention for vice president. and that he _ Supported = President Kennedy ‘in the i960 election. “From what [ read in the pa- pers, that’ S not likely to happen | in (964,"" said Kennedy. i Kennedy Relaxed ! During the talks. Wallace was | somewhal reserved and Ken. | nedy was relaxed, ' | Fremont Murry af hard wards | citi herr Trammet}Sopliigk- ; ing Kennedy if he planned to , send troops ta Alabama. Ken- ; nedy repeatediy said he had no plans to do this. Finally Kennedy fuirned fo - Trammell and said: “UH scems : ike you want us tn send troops in. [seems like vou want dras- | fic action with [he governor.” Kennedy said an effect thal Trammch del nol appear fa be Seen a peaceful saliian, burl instead wanted Federal tragps sent ith, -——, frommell toid bamerbhat, Yate havo earl you woulda t send troops, and you haven! sard you wouldnt pul the zoxvernar in jai” “tohaven'l said do would, et ther.’ said Keonerh,. Al the cnet of the canterence, Wt was azeeed thet the tape re. carding of tne conlerence would nol be released unicss both Wal- Ince and Kennedy agrecd to us release. Finally. shortly after 1 a.m... Aennedy ane AlSrsnal) ect Ene Fovernor’s office and header! for Maxwell Field. Here they caucht aophine far a contercoee with sa Sriith Carolina, '" we kee drew it (Inaicate page, name of newspaper, city and state.} TE BIRWINGIAS NEWS LTW! BIRMINGHAM —- POST-NFRALD BIRNINGIIAM, ALATAM, 4-26-63 Edition: 1 rrS AT, Author: Ch AObH STALLION Editor: JAY RS Fe TLS Date: r ryt a8 “pur rite: MTSTT WO ATE ODS TY GUMNEPAP TO TPOMPEGINES ALABAMA, 4/24-25/63 Character: or Classifiedtian: “YT NGHAM ubmitting Office: 1g : ———— eee “y- 7 we wat nage ye . tea RL aw oe