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8. a * TES WARSEN. ae DEPARTMENT OF (USTICE a ae 5 “- UNITED STATES PENITENTIARY *.¢ LEAVENWORTH, KANSAS Jan 8, 192? ae % gd. E, Hoover, D ) Burean of Investigation, Department of fusbice, i Washington, B. ¢. i. 13 tog -_ Dear Sir:- Some time ago you wrote me requesting pe. my advice as ta the advisability ef an interview WiTr ~ John Ram sey, our Register Noe. 26519, committed here for.) life with Wm, K. Hale, No. 26518, for the murder of the | {fy Osare Indian, Henry Roan, to get from him information ~ concerning the subordination of perjury by the me to ye for the deferise in this cage. * Will estate that I ado not think the time is proper” to get anything from Ramsey,at present, I have talked to him 2 or 3S different times aince he has been here but have | mever gone into the cases with him as I did not think it the proper time to do so. The reason I don't think it La." yee the right time is that the lawyers for Hale are preparing. * om appeal on the ground that they have new evidence due to RS, the eleventh hour statement that Ramsey made before he left” Oklahoma City absolving Hale of all guilt an@ charging +. Ernest. Burkhart, Hale's nephew, Curley Johnson, now dead,” and Roy Bunch, who married Henry Roan's widow, with the Killing, stating that he was an eye-witness to the same. Md wee Of course, I don't think they will get any where with J« their apsesl. I is very Svident that Rangey is getting soma’. consideration out of Hale,in order to make this sta tenent, ~ and is passing the same on to his wife and family, who are in a pitiful financial condition. “ Ramsey has told me that he has discharged his * attorney, Jim Springer, whom I have learned since I have -: been here, got §10,000 from Hale to defend Ramsey, and has’. sought the employment of Hale's obher attorneys, Hamilton, Howard and Freeling of Oklahoma City and these attorneys have visited him since he has been here, upon his request, for oer ae the DUPPOR ag they claim, of taking hiS case on appeal. 2" In further conversations Ihave had with Ramsey to he practically admitted his guilt but told me that I coulan's {4 blame him for doing everything he could to get out of it. +. ¢ t I think that the proper time to ase Ramsey will be after the case is finally settled and it is seen that there ‘4 ig no more hope for either Hale or Ramsey. JI think, at that, 288 +3 tke, I will be able to get the truth out of Ramsey as he .° 3, % s#ens to be friendly disposed to me and always has. i. Tamas anxious as anyone to see that these crooke attorneys get their just deserts and will keep this matter in mind and do all I possibly can to get such information ., we age aren vin neta = paaeadh iii dbaaeeian abn anabees ooent acta car £. Vel ite eo Pee “ood a ar 4 . * ‘ " Nats Goat a. ee, Fo Nee Ee SRS