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® — a C ( . ona ye Smith 10-15-26 NO 8 i H@re known him ever since you lived in Ralston? be Yap, sir. . : * Do you know Bob Jones? Yes, sir, Mow lony have you known him? Ee wes there when I came to Ralston. bives there now? v Yes, sir. Will ask you to state whether or not at any time in the best year you said to’ Bob Jones, or in his~arasence, to someone else, you would nct believe Matt Williams on oath? . ho, sir, not to the best of my recollection. oo Did you say that to Tom Murphy, or in his srescenee? A Not thut I recall. 2 Do you recall that you ever said that to anybody that you would not believe Matt Williams on oath? : No, sir. yo you recall you ever discussed fev wiliiens reputavion and veracity to either Bob Jones or Tom turphy? lo, sir. Did you know or had you learned thet Matt <illiems was a wit- | ness in the Osace case? I heard it. Do you recall when you first learned it? No I don't. Do you recall whether or not it was at a vime When it vas ren — ported Matt Williems nad testified in thes¢ cases?® : It mivht have been, I expect so. . (Signed) L.C. Berbour" oe Sete eoae se cP are ate ee ea wee BRaCICATT Cklahoma City, Ckhlahoma, Gctoder Vrityen sta benent e 7, 1926. 54 Wiel. Brackett beins duly svern | © makes the followiaz stateme.t: i - 36 Sevefal Guys before the commencement of tue trial of John Rams: ony. and “.<.~Hale at Guthrie, Oklahoma, I met Henry laze on the Z “58 streets of Pawhuska. He made u.statement to .2¢ as to what ne foe 59 peen doing; suid that he had been hauling the uttorneys of 2% 30. cA A tia ate eet pat ar eee oe a a, rare ; ) ex nalts ae a a 7 pete - Awe Sp yet € a. eB nae