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4 1 t ( * a 4 ~~ - : . : = Si Hs Eales etal r4 » Se Smith 6—_2676, | OU de le te that hard hearted." TI happened to them; that toid him it wes immaterial to me what I was not rixed wp in the affelir and : represented Hale & Ramsey, and th tall mei. ith him was . : 9 lr. Springesr,and ais meme was Weaver. Tne tajl man, i've a . Springer, said to Weaver not to talk to me there ct tus al Coffee Shop, but mike & date with me and talk somewhere } “12. else. They both left. About 1C O'clock that same mornin: i 130 tha small man, who said nis name wis Jeaver, came back. " 14 He started talking to me saying he revresented Hale & Ramsey TS and talzed as though I knew ali about the case, but I tcld 16 - him I knew very little about it and didn't want to know 7 any more about it. He then said "you know you don't want 1e to gee those people go to the penitentiary, you are not < 21s: was not going to get mixed up in it, if I could Weep from it. 22. . Ee asked me a fow other cuestions, anc said that Tt Was their 22 last chance to help save Ramsey snd Yale, and he balieved 24 icould helpe I asked him how he figured I conic helr 2 25 them.. Ee said that John Meyo made a statement in the 26 vreliminary trial. about ea lot of things, some of Which were 27 not true, and we believe you coul:s talk to Johm and get him wR: to change his testimony. I tola him to go talk to John, * 290 and he (Jeaver) said he souldn't e?ford to and vouldn't "370 _- be allowed to. I told him that if he coulén't so, why diagn't he send some of his friend:. He ssid Por the simple resscn that I would have more baaring on John an John would wnderstand me better than anyane else. 1 commence to get mad and tcla him to go on ana lesvs: me alone as ris conversation did not interest me in tm least, He than wanted to meet me somewhere or take me out in & car and talk to me, saying he would treat me just like be would his — . sister or mother. I told him I @ic not wast tc talk to him and could do nothing for him, but he said I cowld after I talked to John and for me to see John. I told him I was gvuinge to see John and tell John about im bein: here talking to ma, and Vecver sid he wanted xe to tell gohn “ and that he was to see me anc whst his business was, ana trey he, Weaver, would be back lionday to see més 7 told. him not tc come to see me anymre as I did not want to talx to him apaine He said I would want tc talk to him after i came back from seeing John, as I would wuderstend better, and that he hoped he had not offended me. He then left. At the time I tola him I] did not xnow anything about the casé, ant ted 311 I could do tryin. ta work end mike a f living and pay doctor bills, he (Veaver) said you nesd not WO Ty about expenses or doctor tilis of any kin«, for we wild fix them wp if necessary. Nr OW © WO Un de i NO Pe . ee de de ae The following Saturday lay list, I want to Pawhuska and tolé John about those two men. I raturned to Tulsa Saturday a aed; night. Jot pot word to Mr. Smith and Mr. iurphy and they / :