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at i id a s) ae + 4. ee i 2) i. mee Bs ee a ” TT i4ing statanent to @. 3. maith Pagu 844 DeLfonduant. 1926. Par, 2 JOU RAMSEY Manag fol: and 7. l}. dhite on January 6, ems / Guthrio, Okla., Jail , Some time in the enrly part of 1963, tha , 8 date I dvsi't recall, Bill ifala cme to ' Ruury Graaer's roneh where I wag wovk- ing fou Gronmer sulling whiskey. I was ; in the hunk house, and Honrvy Grenmor ‘ t : sealled mee YT Went ovt and suv him end of Hale utanding togethers I walked over to pe them, and the three of us walked out gev- . eral yards to'a road and stopped. Henry Grammer turned to ma und said that Hala had a little job he Wanted dore, and : asked ma if I would do it. I said "it ; ‘. depends on what the job was". Gramner mo said he wanted an Indian bumped off. 1 , - 4 said "thats different". Hale, Cramer and : I then talked the matter over "for a few minutos. T don't rocall just what was | said, but I remarked that I would look it : over, and I went back to the bunk houge. i In a’ few days Grammer told ma that Hale - was gatting anxious to have that job done. | As I remomher, the next time I saw Hale ! “vag in Fairfax, and we had avother talk t { | ae * . ‘sbout the Indian he wanted killed, and I " told him I would do the job but that I did not have any way to get around. Hale said ‘ _ he would sea me in a day or two or in a : Law days. I again met Hale at Grammer's cyanch and Hale told me he was going to buy \ be ama OR beg er Prana av em ee mae 5 at A nore inet ow i elite lent rt, rei