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WY. 100-33742 1 Qe How often have you been crdained? 4. You are only ordained once, of course, but as you expand now, at: the present time, we are planning to incorporate in the State ef Massachusetts ~ a5 we expand into other states we will have to quality for those states md have cerfificates for those states, Q. What was the date of your firet ordination? &, September 15, 19336 Q. What happened on that occasion? Where did it take place? 4. Before the Ministry Board of our organization in the City of Newark, New Jersey, which ie the original home of our organisation, Q and the certificate you have presented here says you were publically omiained on the 10th of dngust 1934. A. 10th of August? 16th t. L E: a well, th of 4 gourke esas really confirmed at the National ntlone They conferred it in September a month later. Qs What happened on this date = 10th of August, 19347 As Iwas a candidate for the ministry and it was confirmed by the Board ef IW nistare which sonvens seach veer on the 1e¢h af Sentamhes of each SAS SS Weiklses CUTS Bee yet fal wel a Fe Ve Lp eter FOR?» Q& You said you were ordained in Septenber, 19:57 T was still a candidate for the ministerial board. | Aa Qe You are still a candidate for the ministry after you are ordained? A. I had to pass before the Board of Ministers and answergthe questions, Bas that in 1933 or 1934? Qs in Ae That was in 1933 - it was when the Grand Moderator appointed me md 1934 was when I prepared before the Ministerial Board, Qe What happened in 1935? de 19357 That was for the State of Connecticut, in which State ~ in which our organization operate = in each state in which our organization operate, ve must file a certificate of incorporation in that state and we must ajsc ’ arrange for credentials in that state, Q@. You consider that whenever you get new credentials for a new state you get a new ordination? A. It is ovr policy, your honor, to recognise the laws of that states