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A: was unable réasly to Getérmine, Aetect ti’ amount of time, an@ I could hear noise that was taking place. It seemed around me, on top of me, almost in the room, and after a period of time I we n't sure whether it was morning or afternoon or - nighttime,. and I fut on--and I wanted to find out and I put on somef dry clothes that were there, a pants and a shirt, and 1 opened fhe’ door and I saw,what I Believed to be a tourist or some- one standing under the light off the balcony and asked what time - it was. : He mentioned to me it was, I think, 2:30, and went back % into the room. ;[R] - Q@: Had you known Miss Kopechne prior to July 18th? _ A: Well, I have known her--my family has known her for a num ~- ber of years. She has visited my house, my wife. She has visited -Mrs. Robert Kennedy's house. She worked in the Robert Kennedy Pres- ’ idential campaign, and I would say that we have known her ior a number of years. a - Q@: Now, directing your-~ ; A: If the question is, have I ever been out with Mary Jo--~ Q: No, the question was whether you just knew her socially prior to this event. A: Well, could I give you a fuller explanation, your Honor? THE COURT: Go ahead. ° THE WITNESS: I have never in my life, as I have stated in my television, had any personal relationship whatsoever with Mary Jo Kopechne. I never in my life have been either out with Mary Jo Kopechne nor have I ever been with her prior to that occasion where we were not in a general assemblage of friends, associates, or members of our family. ; Q: Directing your attention to the 19th, at around 7:30 a.n., ( did you meet anyone at your room? A: Not at 7:35 a.m. . Q: Did you meet anyone at anytime that morning at your room? A: If your Honor would permit me to give--I would like to be specifically responsive, and I can, I think. It might be mislead- ing to the Court if I just gave a specific response to it. Wha-- ever the Court wants. Q: Well, what time did you get up that mornjng? A: I never really went to bed that night.-< Q: After that ncise at 2:30 in the morning, when did you first meet anyone? A: Sometime after 8:00 I met the woman that was behind the coun- ter at the Shiretown Inn and I met Mr. Richards and Mr. Moore, very . briefly Mrs. Richards, and Mr. Gargan and Mr. Markham, and I sew Mr. Tretter, but to be specifically responsive as to who I met in my room, which I believe was the earlier question, was Mr. Mark- ‘bam and Mr. Gargaa. . Q: Now, what time did Mr. Markham and Mr. Gargan arrive? A: About a few-- I would thirk about 8:30. Q: Did you have any conversation with (them) at that time? 38/ Two or three nours errlier he ee £ e aa 18/ aR reega on mont re fed been chiefly conceméd with how dark it 19/ Nos there are indications thet we skall mon s2e that he spent a good part - of it telephoning, Also, see discussion of Anoualy YX - 15 -