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0-19 (Rev. 12-14-64} of the An. can Negro. At this point the Americz Negro is still hospitable and friendly andlorgiving. But if he is continually tricked and deceived and so on, and if there is still no solution to his problems, he will become completely disillusioned, disenchant- ed and disassociate himself from the interest of America and ifs society. Many have done that already. qiivauy What is your opinion of the worid-wide struggle now going on between capitalism and socialism? It is impossible for capitalism to survive, pri- marily because the system of capitalism needs some blood to suck. Capitalism used to be like an eagle, but now it's more like a vulture. It used to be strong enough to go and suck anybody's blood whether they were strong or not. But now it has become more cowardly, like the vulture, and it can only suck the blood of the helpless. As the nations of the world free themselves, then capitalism has less victims, less to suck, and it becomes weak- er and weaker. It’s only a matter of time in my opinion before it will collapse completely. What is the outlook for the Negro struggle in 1965? Bloody. It was bloody in 1963, it was bloody in 1964, and all of the causes that created this blood- shed still remain. The March on Washington was designed to serve as a vent or valve for the frus- tration that produced this explosive atmosphere. In 1964 they used the Civil Rights bill as a valve. What can they use in 1965? There is no trick that the politicians can use to contain the explosiveness that exists right here in Harlem. And look at New York Police Commissioner Murphy. He's coming out in headlines trying to make it a crime now to even predict that there’s going to be trouble. This shows the caliber of American thinking. There's going to be an explosion, but don't talk about it. All the ingredients that produce explosions exist, but don't talk about it, he says. That's like saying 700 million Chinese don't exist. This is the same approach. The American has become so guilt ridden and filled with fear that instead of facing the reality of any situation he pretends the situation doesn't exist. You know, in this country it’s almost a crime to say there’s a place called China—unless you mean that little island called Formasa. By the same token, it's almost a crime to say that people in Harlem are going to explode because the social dynamite that existed last year is still here. So 1 think 1965 will be most explosive—more explosive than it was in "64 and ‘63. There's nothing they can do to contain it. The Negro leaders have lost their control over the people. So that when the people begin to explode—and their explosion is justified, not unjustified—the Negro leaders can't contain if. ——— Tolson Belmont Mohr DeLoach Casper Callahan Conred Felt Gale Rosen Sullivan Tavel Trotter Tele Room Holmes Gandy INTERVIEW WITH MALCOLM X (Cont, ) Times Herald The Washington Datly News The Evening Star New York Herald Tribune New York Journali-American New York Daily News New York Post The New York Times The Baltimore Sun The Worker The New Leader The Wall Street Fournal The National Observer Pecple's World Date MarcheApril 165. YOUNG SOCIALIST Page 5