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N¥ 105-0999 CON EppeT A "i claimed that there was as much segregation in Nev York ™,' city as in Birmingham, On June 4, 1963, from 10:30 to 11:00 PH, Television Station WIDT, Channel 13, New York, New York, broadcast «& procram entitled "A Conversation With Malcolm," The — “~~ program consisted of an interview with aubject conducted pby Dr, KENNETH CLARK, Peycholocy Professor at the City ' Collese of New York and an authority on the psychiatric impact of racial segregation. During this interview subject discussed his background, affiliation with the Noland the general NOI program, In response to questions he classified Christian Society as "religious hypocrisy". He further stated that the NOI does not actively recruit Negroes in prison, but that these Negroes have had experiences that enable them to recognize their racisl pride in the teachings of the NOI, and they rehabilitate themselves by joining the NOI, He went on to state that all blak people in the United States are in prison and the fresident is the warden and these blacic people are unable to rehabilitate themselves without the help of ELIJAI NUHAMMAD, | He also criticized liberals whopet: Negroes on the back and talk integration while they are thinking segregation, and he criticized the Jews for being violent apainst Wael organizations but upon ° goining eure organizations they encourage none-violent@® by the Negroes, He further oriticized the Jevs for exploiting Negroes by controlling 9O per cent of all the businesses in a every Hegro community, He criticized Dr, MARTIN LUTHER KING for teaching a philosophyof:"turn the other cheek,” and claimed that it was disarming the Negro of his moral and natural pight to defend hinself, He claimed that KING is supported and subsidized by whites and that the black cicsses do not support him, He classified as a "sel) out" the agreement necotiated by Dr. KING in Birmingham, Alabama, during the racial crisis, He also atated that “Hr, MMAD teaches us fo , love each other," which subject claimed means vo lGae IAL = 19» . . . me gegen Ayn AES I ep arg theluie Myer AL EW ote NS) 2 BEE PET ah gaia Re ANTES ET vY La " on Bhs -