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August 19, 1947
refuse to furnish any further information,
On August 5, 1947 Special Agent DAVID A.-MacCULLOCH was
contacted in the resident agency. office, Tacoma, Washington by PRED CRISMAN.
At this time GRISMAN asked if the Seattle Office was investigation the crash
of the B-25 and he was informed that no investigation was being conducted by
the Seattle Office. CRISMAN at this time related in a rambling story that he
had picked up some strange rock formations which he had forwarded to a friend
of his in the University of Chicago to have amalyzed and that later, in some
manner unknown to him, these rock formations had been reported as being frag—
ments of a flying disc.
On August 7, 1947. FRED es HAROLD DAHL 1
viewed at the Tacoma: resident agency office, Both DAHL and CRIGMAN a6
denied any knowledge of how the rock ficuatious which they had picked u
have alalyzed became corinected with the flying disc stories. Both denied
making any statement to anyone that these rock formations were portions of a
dise fragment. It was apparent from the start of the interview that DAHL and
CRISMAN were not telling their complete ‘and true connection with the flying
disc. story. They refused to give any definite information as to what they said
or had done which caused them to become involved in a flying disc story, but
gave evasive answers and repeatedly SyaREC that they had nothing to do with it
and were at a loss to understand how they became connected with the flying disc
story... After conside spable questioning, they stated that in the early part of
Jun hey sent to RAY PALMER of thf Ziff-Da avis Publishing Company which published
th6\Fantasy magazine in Chicago and the Venture magazine in Bvanston, Illinois,
some rock formations which bhey ha d , FOU on Maury Island. They stated they
sent these formations, asking o have them analyzed. They stated that
later PAIMER wrote and asked for more samples, advising he had failed to analyze
the samples, CRISMAN and DAHL stated they have never sent any additional samples
and that the next they heard regarding the rock formations which they had sent
PALMER was when he called HAROLD DAHL and asked if the rock formations could
have come from a flying disc. DAHL stated. he made some remark that they possibly
could have come from a flying dise and that he immediately sat down and wrote
a letter to PALMER, which was in the latter part of June in which he stated
the material could have been portions of a flying disc. DAHL claimed that he
thought he told PAIMER over the phone something about being in his boat when
he obtained these rock formations, but .stated he could not recall what he had
written to PALMER and claimed that he passed the whole thing off as a joke,
CRISMAN and DAHL were questioned at length in an attempt to obtain specific
information as to exactly what each one had done with regard to the rock forma-
tions. However, éach stated that the only thing they had done was tell RAY PAIMER
the formations could have come from a flying disc in view of the fact it appeared
"that's what he wanted them to say", No definite information could be obtained
from either DAHL or CRISMAN as to what each specifically had done to start the
flying disc story,
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